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Very frustrated with LCHF !

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#1 ·
Two weeks today on LCHF and I'm beyond pissed :frusty:

For two weeks I'm following everything , haven't touch any carb nor sweets nothing , just fat and veggies !

Today I went to my GP and ... OMG I gain 1.2 lbs :frusty:

Think to go back to normal carbs diet !
 
#2 ·
all veggies are carbs... give an example of your daily diet and hopefully we can help :)
 
#4 ·
I eat protein too , but if it isn't fatty I doesn't have "fuel " so I munch cheese , viena sausages , cashews and almonds .

Just had meatloaf with green beans for dinner !
 
#5 ·
@Janice Keen

Here an typical day menu :

heavy cream in my coffee

Breakfast - omelette with onions,feta,spinach and mushrooms
5 pieces of bacon

Lunch - salad with fat meat and tons of fat ranch dressing

Dinner - meatloaf or sausage with mediteranean salad ( tomato , cucumbers , onions , feta and tons of olive oil )

Snacks - cashews , almonds , cheddar cheese , prosciuotto wrapped mozzarella cheese
 
#6 ·
@Janice Keen

Here an typical day menu :

heavy cream in my coffee

Breakfast - omelette with onions,feta,spinach and mushrooms
5 pieces of bacon

Lunch - salad with fat meat and tons of fat ranch dressing

Dinner - meatloaf or sausage with mediteranean salad ( tomato , cucumbers , onions , feta and tons of olive oil ) Snacks - cashews , almonds , cheddar cheese , prosciuotto wrapped mozzarella cheese
Your diet is similar to mine. I lost a lot in the first few weeks and its now slowed quite a bit. The only difference I see is that your on meds. Can the meds affect your weight loss? I dont know enough about them to answer that.. hopefully someone else will know.
 
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No , I don't think it was the meds , if you see my signature I did lose some weight by eating low carbs.

I think is the fat , or just for some reason LCHF isn't working for me !
 
#8 ·
What kind of ranch dressing are you eating 'tons' of? Bottled dressings can be loaded with weird stuff. Even the little seasoning packets of ranch mix can have carby ingredients such as maltodextrin, which is the first ingredient in Hidden Valley ranch mix. Maltodextrin is made from either corn, potato or rice starch and is metabolized by our bodies the same as glucose - meaning that it raises blood sugar.
 
#11 ·
I don't eat ranch all the time, for 2 weeks 3 times only , and it is from the cafetiere

At home never had dressing
 
#9 ·
That's not a huge gain, but yes, I wouldn't like it either. Here are some near-random thoughts ...

-- 1.2 pounds is well within range for pure water weight gain.

-- Doctor's scales and home scales don't often match. In fact, if your doctor has more than one scale, they might not match each other. That 1.2 pounds is well within a reasonable range of error.

But, if this is a real trend in the making:

-- Your diet looks fine. Only thing I'd note is that cashews and almonds often spike me, though that's not true for everyone. Still, they're carbier than macadamias, walnuts, or pecans, so you may want to switch 'em out.

One more possibility: Most ranch dressings are fine (for me, anyhow), but some are sugared and/or starched up, so you may want to re-check the label. Unfortunately, label reading's a must for any packaged/jarred dressing or sauce.

-- Hard to tell serving amounts from here, but it does look like you're doing fine where calories are concerned. It is every bit as important to get enough as it is to avoid eating too much. (Back in my pre-diabetic youth, I went on an old-fashioned starvation diet -- and promptly gained 5 pounds!)

-- Changes in exercise levels may also play a role.

Dietary fat does not cause bodily fat. Proportions and amounts of foods, however, can. Once again, however, your diet looks very good -- maybe some teensy tweaks would help to fine-tune. Maybe.
 
#10 ·
I don't know what your percentages break down into but according to this Keto Calculator if you are eating too much protein you will not be in ketosis and may gain weight. I finally did this worksheet today and I'm going to see if it works. You might take a look and see if it rings any bells for you before throwing in the towel. I'm only in this 3 weeks though so take it with a grain of salt.
 
#13 ·
No , for sure not much protein. Even I think less protein .
If I eat salad only in half hour I can't stay on my foots , get head ache etc
 
#12 ·
-- Doctor's scales and home scales don't often match. In fact, if your doctor has more than one scale, they might not match each other. That 1.2 pounds is well within a reasonable range of error.
I used the same scale at my doc and they even reset it for me.This is why it soooooooooooo frustrating :(

No changes on the exercise level .

Also since I'm on LCHF I'm always hungry , I did try to eat extra olives or salads ... always starving , head spinning etc. Then I eat some cheddar cheese and I'm fine.
 
#14 ·
Was losing weight real easy when my sugar count wa ssky high having to earn it now I did gain 2 lbs when first went on Metformin .. A week later back to 180 where I wa sto start with Goal is 175 for now but even if see saw back and forth a little my BG comes first .. I am feeling good and getting more active and the LCHF is working for me so far .. Thank God I love Meat and Eggs LOL
 
#15 ·
If I were to hazard a few more guesses, then:

-- You may not be getting enough calories in (that backfires, as I mentioned above), and may actually need to add more protein.
-- The cafeteria ranch dressing may be a partial culprit. Any chance of taking in dressing(s) you can trust?

I can't subsist on salads alone as a full meal, either, unless they've got goodly amounts of eggs, cheese, meat, poultry and/or fish.
 
#16 ·
How can I know if I get enough calories ? How does it feel if men doesn't take enough calories ?

How can I increase the calories ? I eat lots of meat that is for sure .
 
#17 ·
How can you tell when you've had enough calories?

Quickie Answer: When you're not hungry, and don't get hungry for a few hours. You shouldn't ever feel overstuffed or bloaty, either.

To get a bit more scientific and such about tracking, you might want to try CalorieKing.com. It's a free calorie-counter, and they produce a small print book that's easy to carry. (There may be other sites, but that's the one I know.)

In the meantime, you'll probably want to keep on with the real butter, real heavy cream, real mayo ...
 
#18 ·
Even if you're eating fatty meats, etc., you may not be getting enough fat in your meals. That's where you can add calories without hurting your blood sugar. Smother all your cooked veggies in butter & all your raw veggies in full fat mayo, sour cream, olive oil, etc. You can even add a big dollop of butter to steaks & other protein dishes. Use heavy cream in your coffee & anywhere else you can think of.

If you aren't taking coconut oil, then start - you can add that to your coffee too - and it has other benefits besides just being another fat. It is composed of short & medium chain fatty acids, as opposed to other fats which are long chain fatty acids. This means it digests more easily because it is metabolized by a different pathway and goes directly to the liver for energy production and is not stored as fat or glucose. It gives a strong sense of satiety and relieves hunger for longer periods. It boosts metabolism & helps with weight loss. You can do your own research if you're interested . . . a great many of us use it and benefit from it.
 
#20 ·
I have been using myfitnesspal.com for the past couple of years to help monitor my diet. Of all the ones I have tried this seems to have the best database for food. I measure everything. When I first starting using it I was amazed at the calories that I was eating because I was not using portion control. It has helped me lose 35 pounds ... perhaps it can work for you.

With that said ... 1 1/2 pounds could just be plain and simple water retention. It could be you had heavier clothes on that day. I know it is frustrating (been there) but don't beat yourself up for it.
 
#27 ·
Here my breakfast today !
 

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I know this link and basically it is my reference for the last two weeks. I do latterly what is on that page :)
 
#30 ·
Hang in there hooligan!
Try the fitness pal tracking to see exactly your macronutrients Then look at the ketogenic ratio as posted above. I'm still tinkering with mine over a month later!
Instead of ranch use more oil like olive oil on your salads together with protein. Add evenire heavy cream to your coffee. Lots of butter to your meat. Coconut oil to fry your eggs. Once you've looked at your kerogen if ratio come back and let us know! Also remember extra salt! Salting to taste according to Atkins us not enough. Don't have the book infront of me so don't want to lead you wrong there. Maybe someone else has that info handy?
 
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Shalyne,

I once step on my doctor's scale. The nurse placed the large weight on 150, and slid the small weight all the way to the end. The arm didn't go down. I was over 200. She then slid the large weight to 200 and slid the small weight all the way back. The arm didn't go up. I was under 200.

She went back to the beginning, same result as before. The doctor's scale couldn't weigh me.

Jeff
 
#35 ·
My grandmother mixed diced, sauteed onion and green pepper into the meat, added 1 or 2 eggs to bind, plus maybe a couple of other spices/herbs, then topped the loaf with plain tomato paste. Pretty darn low-carb (just 'cause she liked it that way), so it is possible!

Sometimes she left off the tomato paste and made gravy. There, I must admit, the carbs were all over the map, depending on how she thickened it.

I love a good, savory meatloaf. Ketchup? Yuck. Old-fashioned cooking was not always sweet. Now I've learned it was healthier than we've been led to believe.
 
#33 ·
Unless you are comparing both weights (before/after) at the same time of day (ideally in the morning, fasted after a bowel movement) and on the exact same scale, then you may be driving yourself crazy for no reason. People easily increase their weight a few pounds every day and then go back down again by morning.

I would suggest taking a deep breath, stick to the diet as in my mind you are doing an amazing job and if you want to weigh yourself, get a good scale at home and weigh in the morning at the same time before you eat or drink anything and after you used the bathroom. Or start taking your waist measurement, instead. that will let you track your progress and remove most of the variables that can cause random weight fluctuations.
 
#38 ·
I made a good meatloaf using crushed pork skins as the filler and otherwise normally and it is both low carb and good. Make a very good sandwich with two slices of Shanny's adaptation of MCS's bread and mustard! Plus good as a main dish. I like it and it's not high carb. I use low carb catsup both in it and on it.
 
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