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Old 12-21-2013, 12:35   #1
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Greetings

I need some answers please..

1- If I maintain a daily carb intake of less than 100g, about 70~80 in average, would I still be in ketosis?
2- f I bought a ketosis meter, what number should I look for?
3- do we lose more weight when we are in ketosis, or when we are eating low carb but not low enough to be in ketosis?

What confuses me is that when I started LCHF my carb intake was around 160g. That first week I lost 5kg. But when I lowered my carbs to only 20, my weight loss stopped for 10 days now. So I keep asking myself, maybe too low carbs is not for me? because it seems that I lose more when I'm not in ketosis.. I'm not sure. But what I know is that at 20 carbs I lose no weight, even when my daily calories are no more than 1100.

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Just a quick response. 70-80 carbs very unlikely to be in ketosis
160 g if carbs is not considered low carb
Check out Peter attia blog for some ketosis info

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Greetings

I need some answers please..

1- If I maintain a daily carb intake of less than 100g, about 70~80 in average, would I still be in ketosis?
2- f I bought a ketosis meter, what number should I look for?
3- do we lose more weight when we are in ketosis, or when we are eating low carb but not low enough to be in ketosis?

What confuses me is that when I started LCHF my carb intake was around 160g. That first week I lost 5kg. But when I lowered my carbs to only 20, my weight loss stopped for 10 days now. So I keep asking myself, maybe too low carbs is not for me? because it seems that I lose more when I'm not in ketosis.. I'm not sure. But what I know is that at 20 carbs I lose no weight, even when my daily calories are no more than 1100.
1. For ketosis, you should be under 50 carbs, but even that is not enough to get some people into ketosis. I need to be under 30 grams per day, for instance.

2. For a Keto Meter, I believe over 2.0 minimum, the higher the better.

3. Ketosis offers higher fat burning. The key to losing weight is to not just be in ketosis, but to have lower blood sugar. The less insulin you have running around your body, the better. Insulin is the fat storing hormone. It is primarily released when you eat any carbohydrates. The lower the carbs, the less the insulin, the better the blood sugar, the more the weight loss. You must also keep the protein under control because that, too, can turn into glucose. The more glucose, the more insulin.

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When you drop carbs from your diet, replace them with fat to maintain energy equivalence, 9g of carbs = 4g of fat. Insufficient energy intake can cause weight gain because that's how your body reacts to it.

From the sound of it, it is pretty unlikely that you've ever been in nutritional ketosis yet. If you get a meter, NK is defined as >= 0.5 upon waking and >= 1.0 toward the end of the day. Many people lose weight just doing low-carb but short of NK, others not. People vary widely.

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Oops.. I meant ketogenic ratio is 2.0 or higher.

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Many people lose weight just doing low-carb but short of NK, others not. People vary widely.
That's great to know. I hope I'm of the first type, because I find that NK means I would deprive myself from most vegetables and salad, while low carb without NK allows me loads of vitamins and minerals. My family drinks distilled water, so we must get minerals from other sources.

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Are you counting calories also?

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Yes, JT. Myfitnesspal counts them for me.

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That's great to know. I hope I'm of the first type, because I find that NK means I would deprive myself from most vegetables and salad, while low carb without NK allows me loads of vitamins and minerals. My family drinks distilled water, so we must get minerals from other sources.
Not really. It doesn't stop you from eating vegetables except a few high-sugar ones like corn, peas and carrots. I'm not a big fan of vegetables although I do eat them, view them as nutritionally low-density and don't believe I need them for any particular vitamin or mineral which are plentiful in other foods (barring the discovery of any actual deficiency which hasn't happened). Vitamins don't do anything for you unless you are deficient.

I don't know what you put in your salads, but those are mostly fine, too, on a ketogenic diet. Some feta cheese and being generous with the olive oil helps, too.

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"salad" is a term that can mean any number of things in different countries. I discovered this when a man from India explained what was in their salad: chopped up vegetables - more like a "relish" in my part of the world.

Salad, either of leafy greens or of chopped vegetables, doesn't have to be high in carbs unless one uses sugars in the sauce/dressing and puts in high-carb vegetables like carrots and tomatoes. Lettuce, cucumber, cabbage, green bell-pepper, celery are some of the salad-type vegetables that are my favorites - and I do make a chopped vegetable salad now and then, also.

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