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Old 07-13-2014, 20:39   #1
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So I've been checking out some meal ideas, and the LCHF diet etc. when I see people post things that include stuff like Bacon and Eggs fried in Butter and lots of cheese, I think "Yummy"

But I'm curious about the cholesterol as I know that would drive up the already above average cholesterol that I have.

How does it work?

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But that's the thing, Randy - it won't. Dietary fats do not raise cholesterol, and if you aren't getting enough dietary fat, your body is going the make the additional cholesterol itself. All the bad-fats propaganda of the last 50-60 years was a lie from the get-go - perpetrated by a man who was so desperate to publish that he manipulated his research data to conform to the results he'd already decided.

Dietary fat comprises only about 10-15% of serum cholesterol - our bodies manufacture all the rest.

Ending the War on Fats

How did we come to believe saturated fat and cholesterol are bad for us? (who is Peter Attia?)

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Old 07-13-2014, 21:06   #3

Here's another link - John Hopkins Medical. It's from a post a while back. It focuses on the absence of CVD risks from a (natural) high fat diet.

Low-Carb, Higher-Fat Diets Add No Arterial Health Risks to Obese People Seeking to Lose Weight - 06/01/2011

As Shanny said, the myth that dietary fats were dangerous started when I was a boy - and that's what it is - a myth.

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It's a matter deserving of greater public observation and reflection.

One fact I like to reflect on is this: It was after low-fat became a matter of public policy that obesity and metabolic disorders became epidemic.

Additionally, that phenomenon is repeated every time a country adopts today's Western diet.

My own personal observations reveal a large number of friends, family and co-workers who embrace low-fat as the royal path to health ... only to end up with immovable obesity or yo-yoing weights, plus ever-worsening health issues.

We've been scared away from dietary cholesterol, even though most of our choleseterol is produced by our own bodies.

Things are just now starting to change. A Google search displays articles like this one:

Saturated fat's role in heart disease is a myth, says heart specialist

Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women (This article doesn't apply to you, I believe, but it is most instructive.)

Increasingly, the role of statins in our deteriorating health profiles is being revealed, as well:

Research Finds Link Between Statin Use and Progressive Muscle Disease

Don’t Give More Patients Statins

Hope this helps!

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Some people do find that increasing their fat intake increases their cholesterol. In my case, I saw my LDL go up by 100 points, and my HDL more than double, from 40 or 41 to over 80.

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But Shottlebop, you're an extraordinary guy! I'd love if my HDL were that high, and have you tested your LDL for particle size? Bet it's fluffy!

I gotta say I'm lovin' to find your posts around the forum more often. Hope things are going well for you!

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Shottle... just curious as to over how much time that was tested... because most people i know that do low carb high fat see an increase INITIALLY, and then it drops like a stone... thats what mine did...hmmm And im with Shanny... bet the LDL particle size is large and fluffy rather than small and dense.. which is good.

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Originally Posted by magdalene74 View Post
because most people i know that do low carb high fat see an increase INITIALLY, and then it drops like a stone...
Not necessarily. In cases like yours, it's the initial weight loss that causes the surge in the circulating cholesterol. But some part of the population has a problem with metabolizing fats & for them the LDL can remain elevated like forever. More to do with genetics is what the current thinking seems to be. Good or bad is debatable, but it happens.

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Randy, if you do a search on 'cholesterol' within this forum you will see anecdotal reports that tend to run: at first my lipids went up, then:
  • HDL went up, trigs dropped, leading to a primo ratio (trig/HDL <2 is considered healthy and safe).
  • Total cholesterol may drop, rise, or remain the same but HDL increases leads to another primo ratio (HDL/total > .24 is considered healthy and safe).

Better Know Your Triglyceride/HDL Ratio if You Want to Prevent a Heart Attack

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