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Old 09-30-2016, 22:22   #11
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Have you read the website www.bloodsugar101...that is where you could begin to understand the low carb high fat (LCHF) model that most of us are following. Of course as you know we all react differently. But, if you read some of the historical posts on this website you will see that Many of the longer term folks who have follow LFHC dramatically reduce the need for medications and in some cases they are able to get off of all meds, using just LCHF to control their blood sugar.

I started following LCHF on 5/1/2015 since then I have stopped taking Statin Drugs, Januvia, dropped my nightly dose of slow acting insulin from 126u to 25u. I am still taking metformin, but I hope in time I will work out of that also.

My A1c went from 7.9 to 5.8, my blood pressure dropped from 135/95 to 120/80 (that's because I dropped 50 lbs.), initially my Cholesterol went up a bit but after about 14 months it again normalized without statin drugs....

I can do this for life, and in time I got my doctor on board, the results I got convinced him whatever I was doing was working to improve my overall health...I know you trust your doctor and I am not suggesting I know anything about medicine, only sharing my experiences....

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No I had not read this article, but now will. When you began eating as such, did you have many hypos? I believe I told you I have been eating more carbs at night because since I was placed on Januvia I had/have been having them during my sleep. Very scary. I just don't enjoy having those in my sleep. I know hypos begin at 70 for most. If I wake up and check my blood sugar after having the symptoms of hypos my blood sugar is not in the hypo range. Normally around 130. I am the symptoms, but the reading is not truly hypo. I get confused. I have been told to have may blood sugar close to 180 at bedtime, I always have something that are the symptom of hypo, but my reading won't show me that low. I can't get into see the doctor until December, only his PA. So when you were on your medications and you changed to the low carb, high fat diet, did you have many hypos when in transition? Sam

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This link will not open in Safari. I checked on Firefox and there seems to be several www.bloodsugar101. Can I find this within the forum? There is also a book titled Bloodsugar 101. Any suggestions.

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www.bloodsugar101.com

This should be a valid link.

It that doesn't work, try http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/


The author, Jenny Ruhl, wrote the book "Bloodsugar 101" which is about the same as what is on her website. The website, however, is always being updated with new information.

I have the book, as I prefer to read a book than a screen. It was very helpful.

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Will this type of diet cause me to lose weight. I believe I told you I need to gain weight. I only weigh 142. Sam

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While many people who are overweight will lose weight on LCHF, it doesn't follow that if one is not overweight that they will lose as well. Think of it as normalizing one's weight.

People who want to gain weight on LCHF usually will increase protein (not carbs).

(Most of the talk about LCHF on the internet is about losing weight, which it does well. Those with diabetes have found that it also will keep blood sugar levels from going high, so many diabetics have adopted this way of eating. I have been on LCHF for six years. I lost my excess weight within the first six months, and have mostly maintained the same weight since then and if anything I have increased fats and lowered carbs even more. It's when I eat more protein than my body needs that I see my weight increasing.)

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I always read/heard that to much protein will take a toll on ones kidneys. It this correct? I believe you stated you ate a lot of red meat. What about the saturated fat in the red meat. Aren't you concerned about that?

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High protein intake will not harm healthy kidneys, nor will it cause kidney disease. It is, however, hard on compromised kidneys.

I don't eat high protein. I think what I said is that I do eat meat, and most of my fats are animal fats. But one doesn't HAVE to eat red meat as a protein source. There are other sources such as fish, dairy and eggs.

No, I'm not afraid of saturated fats. It has been proven many times over that saturated fats do not contribute to cardiovascular disease.

That said, there are a few people who feel better with lower amounts of saturated fats so if they are doing LCHF they only have a moderate amount of those fats and use more olive oil and avocados.

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High protein intake will not harm healthy kidneys, nor will it cause kidney disease. It is, however, hard on compromised kidneys.

I don't eat high protein. I think what I said is that I do eat meat, and most of my fats are animal fats. But one doesn't HAVE to eat red meat as a protein source. There are other sources such as fish, dairy and eggs.

No, I'm not afraid of saturated fats. It has been proven many times over that saturated fats do not contribute to cardiovascular disease.

That said, there are a few people who feel better with lower amounts of saturated fats so if they are doing LCHF they only have a moderate amount of those fats and use more olive oil and avocados.
What is strange I read this about saturated fats just last night. It was stated in myths about saturated fats. What happened to me and the doctor doesn't even know this is that a few years ago I read that taking cinnamon capsules would help you to balance blood sugar. I began taking 2000 mg at bF and dinner. My sugar was really under control. I also noticed I was losing weight when I went to the doctor. I did this for around one year and went from 155 to 140 without paying attention. You could see my rib bones. My cardiologist has been on me for the last 2-3 years. Since that happened which was two years ago I have only gained two pounds back. I have told a friend who was just diagnosed with diabetes this year. I knew he had to have it for he was really overweight. Thanks VeeJay. I see I am older than you. I don't want to put on to much weight, but sure would love to get my bs where I have at least a 7 A1C. The last two have been 7.6 and the last was 8.6. I have never had anything higher than the 8.6. I sure do like the help one can find on this forum. Everyone seems to very nice. Sam

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I was looking into Coconut oil which is solid at room temperature. My niece has a doctorate in nutrition and diatician. She is a assistant professor at Boston College University. Normally if I ask her a question she never responds. But I did ask her about Coconut oil and she did respond. She said the studies that have been made are not comprehensive enough. She told me not to use it until there are more studies completed. She also said that it is being promoted as a health oil for monetary reasons. I wanted her to help me , but she doesn't have the time. She did tell me as you did not to take the Januvia. But my doctor was pretty persistent. He did not want to put me on insulin at this time. My last two A1C reading have been 7.6, then 8.6. He thought the 8.6 might be in error. Coconut oil is 90% saturated fat.
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Well, you can't untangle that myth until you untangle the one it's based on: that saturated fat is bad for you and causes high cholesterol and heart disease. None of that is true, was never proven to be true and there is a lot more evidence to it being false than to it being true. Saturated fat is the healthiest fat. The worse fats are Omega-6 PUFA. These are nearly all those commercial oils you see in the supermarket which they've been pushing to save us from the evil SFA. Actually, they are much, much worse and this switch (which we did on a massive scale as a population) has contributed to massive health problems.

Aside from wonderful and healthy saturated fat, CO contains "medium chain triglycerides" or MCTs. Just Google that and read a little about this amazing constituent of food, hardly found anywhere outside of coconut oil and human mother's milk.

The science is out there, but it always takes the "establishment" or the official view taught in medical schools, etc. time to catch up. Meanwhile, don't hurt yourself by taking obsolete versions of reality seriously!

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SAM037 said..."When you began eating as such, did you have many hypos?

When I began following LCHF on 5/1/2015 I went through a couple of weeks were I did have a few "hypo". Some refer to this as the "carb flu" I recall one time when I woke up in the morning I felt a bit shaky. I think I tested at 73, at that time it was the lowest I ever had been since I was diagnosed as type 2!

I did exactly what you are not supposed to do (I found out later), I drank some orange juice. After doing more research I learned that I needed to eat more fats, to offset the loss of carbohydrates. I had been getting really sleepy in the afternoons, even to the point of getting a bit dizzy during this initial phase, but my blood sugars were ok in the afternoons and evenings? So I increased my fat intake, and increased my salt intake, to make up for the electrolytes I was losing as I dropped weight and within one/two days it all leveled out.

Since I was taking 126u of slow acting insulin my doctor had always allowed to adjust my dosages, by + or - 3-4u, then wait 3 days before I change again, watching my blood sugar each day to see the impact of the changes. I started dropping my injections by reducing them 4u every three days. This stopped me from having any more hypo's!

What is interesting in my case is that I have now dropped down to only 25u of insulin each night. I commonly hit morning BS of 80's to 70's but now I do not feel shaky or anything. My body has adjusted to lowered blood sugars....and that is a good thing....my normal BS are between 73-100 now...

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