diabetes709

Morning seems to be a very vulnerable time for T2's and carbs. I tried to eat a slice of bread at first, or toast, and finally realized that I could have that slice at lunch or dinner without any impact, but in the AM, it spiked me more than I cared for.

I am working hard now for zero carbs in the AM. Not a lot of choices, but I think that will help my A1c number a lot in the long term.

If it wasn't so serious, and took so much time, this would almost be a fun challenge :-(

John

Richard157

John I sometimes have ham or bacon with two scrambled eggs. That and a cup of coffee is only 5 carbs. If I had hot tea instead of coffee it would be 2 carbs. That fills me up rather well. I don't have any desire for bread in the morning. I have not eaten cereal for many years.

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diabetes709

Hi Richard,

Yea, my mornings are bacon and eggs, and its started to take a toll on me :-) Just need to shake it up a bit. I don't drink coffee, and no juice on earth is any good for me, so I figured to try and turn my diet around and eat the more carbs, later in the day.

Sometimes, I just don't eat. I watch my numbers, and I know I need nourishment just like anyone else, but based on the position I am in, in life, its wicked hard to keep bothering to make meals. I am afraid that seeing my Ac1 number go down so well this last time, I have kind of lost my edge, and need to get it back. It never ends, as you well know :-)

John

dolby

The struggle of curbing carbs continues. I do have a bit of that "dawn phenomenon" that Dr. Bernstein discusses in his book. So I avoid eating any bread or cereal in the morning, now. I switched to bacon, eggs, some vegetables, ham, etc.

My lunch at work usually consists of cottage cheese, tuna fish salad or salad with some meat (like sliced pepperoni slices, salami, etc.). My numbers are good now. I can get as low as 100 2 hours after a meal. Premeal, I sometimes go under 90.

The problem, however, is the weakness that comes on later in the afternoon. It starts slowly, around 4pm. By 5pm, I'm completely exhausted. By that time, my carb intake for the day is probably only at 50g. So I come home and make my low carb dinner still: maybe a steak, sausage, or some fish, vegetables. Again, very low carb.
I'm still tired after the meal.

Finally, I can't stand it any longer and I grab a piece of bread. I eat only 1/2 a slice of whole wheat bread, toasted. I feel much better afterwards. I didn't eat a whole slice. But this low carb diet is continuing to make me feel weak later in the day. Do people feel this way: this is my 2nd week on Dr. Bernstein's diet and the afternoon fatigue comes on as strong as ever, and I have to run and get my emergency bread outta the fridger.

diabetes709

Do you test before your dinner? I turned my meals around, going with as few carbs as possible and then adding as the day goes on. Maybe you can eat more than you think, in the evening? Only your meter knows for sure :-)

Just as a comment to no one in particular, I have found that I started to obsess too much about not raising my numbers over 110 or so with a late meal, and frankly, that was a mistake and so I tend to eat a bit more, even toss in things that have too many calories, because I was hungry, and hating it. Still don't go past 130 max for dinner as the rule, but its been a long day, and I have to eat to make it through.

I don't think its how many carbs you eat during the day, so much as it is, the rate at which you take them in. That's why so many go with more, smaller meals, instead of the usual three. When I am hungry, and foraging :-) I test, and if I am at a good number, I eat. I am not losing weight as fast as I would like because of that, but, good grief, life is for living, and if you are miserable, consider changing the weight goal and moving it out a bit.

P.S. Bread in the fridge is not good, as it dries it out. Bread should be frozen, and it will keep for a very long time, especially wheat bread, and then thawed a few slices at a time for when you break down. This is the only way I can have any bread in my house, as a loaf would go bad even in the fridge before I ever ate it all.

Keep reading that meter, and if you have "room" based on your numbers, eat something filling. Sounds like you are doing a pretty good job.

John

Randall

Hi Dolby

I'm new here and joined in order to make a suggestion to you and to hopefully interact with others and Especially Canucks because our issues can differ quite a bit from you south of the border types

I notice you are from NJ
Do you drive to the "City" (NYC) to get your bagels? We all know NYC bagels along with ones from Montreal and Winnipeg are the best on Earth but if you insist on eating them it would be better if you walked to Manhattan to get them rather than drive because of all the high density useless carbs you can eat bagels are on top of the list a little above Cheerios which is all the cereals is the same idea.

You mentioned that you had nothing on it? There is your big mistake. You will find if you have something on it in the way of protein, like Montreal Smoked Meat or Pastrami, and cheese as well then it will slow the release of sugars into the bloodstream but best just to look for regular sprouted bread not made with flour. It's easy to find this.

Carrots? Hey, same as apples, make sure you balance it with fat and protein. The worst fruits are apples, bananas and the worst veggies are carrots and a few others which escape my mind at the moment.

Lastly, if you take your reading just before you have a cup of coffee with milk and then take it half an hour later you are in for a big surprise because caffeine in the form of hot coffee releases adrenalin which ups your cortisol which spikes your numbers. Surprised? No, coffee is not bad for you but just so you know. I've heard all kinds of pros and cons about coffee but the best way to see is to test.

In summary, change your breakfast menu LOL

Bernstein is too strict on this bread thing. Yes bread is sugar and it would be better to get the energy you need from some other form but to go around feeling weak is no life and I have tried this and couldn't stand it either. Don't you think that balance is the key here? You may also find that your numbers in the morning are higher so maybe does up more in the a.m. and lesser in the evenings. I can get away with much more in the afternoon and evenings if I can drop my numbers by late afternoon. Then I can eat a cheeseburger and not notice any climb. Weird maybe its just me. I hate mornings

Randall

Read: "so maybe dose up more in the a.m.

not "does"

excuse me