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Old 12-26-2013, 16:41   #1
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Hello, I am a diabetic with diabetic neuropathy of over 6 years with a1c for the past 2 years of 5.0. I drink only water and I am a very picky eater because of having diabetes with neuropathy. I have recently cut out starches for the past 2 months in trying to stop the progression of the diabetic neuropathy and I am trying not to go over 100 or maybe 105 with my blood sugars. Every place on the internet I look it just says plenty of fruits and vegetables. Are fats allowed to be in a diabetic neuropathy diet, If so what kind. Are there any other kinds of foods besides fruits and vegetables? So basically, what are the best foods for diabetic neuropathy. I am a 43 year old male, 5-10 and I weigh 123#, Please help, Thank you.

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Its a balance between what you eat and what you don't eat.

Eat low-carb vegetables and health fats (i.e: butter, cream, olive and coconut oils, fatty fruit like avocado, marbled meat and bacon, etc.)

Don't eat grains or any other starches, or starchy vegetables like potatoes, carrots and beets.

There are many members here who have reported a reduction and even a reversal of neuropathy once they got their blood sugar levels down to near normal all the time, very day. Since you are aiming for this, there is hope.

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Here is a recent thread that you should be able to glean lots of examples of healthy fats.
how do I get less protein and more fat?

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Your neuropathy is no doubt related to high blood sugar in the past. Lowering your blood sugar to a safe level (under 140mg/dl, 7.8mmol.l, which includes postprandial levels) and keeping it there at all times is the first order of business. Your neuropathy may reverse somewhat when you get your blood sugar down and keep it down, but understand that it will take awhile and it may even get worse before it gets better - but lowering your blood sugar is of the essence. Nothing good is going to happen if you don't control your blood sugar, and the advice you've already gotten here is the best way to do it. Good thing that you've already embarked on a low-carb plan - now just add truckloads of fats to it. Some members here use a ratio like this regarding percentage of total calories: carbs 5%, protein 10%, fats 85%, and it's a completely healthy food plan for now and for the long term.

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Every place on the internet I look it just says plenty of fruits and vegetables.

Are there any other kinds of foods besides fruits and vegetables? So basically, what are the best foods for diabetic neuropathy.
The majority of us find that we can't eat fruit, except occasionally a few berries, because fruit raises our bg too high.

Most of us eat low carb/high fat. You can read about this way of eating here: LCHF for Beginners That site contains a list of foods we do and don't eat. If you check out the recipe section of the forum you will find that we eat pretty durn good around here.

If you get a chance, I hope you will also check out Blood Sugar 101 we try to send our new members there, it is a site that we rely heavily on.

Keep us posted, and welcome to the forum.

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Everybody's right ... neuropathy is best arrested or reversed by good glucose control, not by eating specific foods.

Those of us who eat low-carb, high-fat avoid sweet fruits and root veggies.

Leafy veggies, broccoli, cauliflower and avocados (technically a fruit, but only technically) are the best veggies for us. Squashes such as spaghetti squash, zucchini and cucumber are usually good, too.

(Tomatoes and onions should be approached with caution. Perfectly OK for many of us, but for others ... not so much.)

Some other good foods for us are:

-- Meats/poultry/seafood
-- Eggs (whole)
-- Real, whole fat dairy: cream (not milk), butter and cheeses
-- Real mayonnaise
-- Oils: olive (unheated), coconut, lard (...yup...)

For any "new" foods, you'll want to test 1 hour after first bite, then 1 hour after that, to make sure they work for you.

Please keep us posted!

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Your neuropathy is no doubt related to high blood sugar in the past. Lowering your blood sugar to a safe level (under 140mg/dl, 7.8mmol.l, which includes postprandial levels) and keeping it there at all times is the first order of business. Your neuropathy may reverse somewhat when you get your blood sugar down and keep it down, but understand that it will take awhile and it may even get worse before it gets better - but lowering your blood sugar is of the essence. Nothing good is going to happen if you don't control your blood sugar, and the advice you've already gotten here is the best way to do it. Good thing that you've already embarked on a low-carb plan - now just add truckloads of fats to it. Some members here use a ratio like this regarding percentage of total calories: carbs 5%, protein 10%, fats 85%, and it's a completely healthy food plan for now and for the long term.
I have recently tried the high fat low carb diet but I still am having problems, such as green beans mixed with flax seed and olive oil with cod fish, Walnuts and olives for breakfast. Within 1 hour my hands are cramping up along with tingling lips and face and etc and I have been eating diets like this. Does a high fat diet still cause numbness and burning until the nerves regenerate. I am taking r-lipoic acid, epo, vitamin c (diabetic neuropathy cocktail) and other supplements to help as well. So i guess my main question is does healthy fat cause (1200 Calories a Day) or contribute to the numbness, tingling and burning. I would think that it would since it would possibly clog up the tiny blood vessels that feed the nerves. please let me know, thank you

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I have recently tried the high fat low carb diet but I still am having problems, such as green beans mixed with flax seed and olive oil with cod fish, Walnuts and olives for breakfast. Within 1 hour my hands are cramping up along with tingling lips and face and etc and I have been eating diets like this. Does a high fat diet still cause numbness and burning until the nerves regenerate. I am taking r-lipoic acid, epo, vitamin c (diabetic neuropathy cocktail) and other supplements to help as well. So i guess my main question is does healthy fat cause (1200 Calories a Day) or contribute to the numbness, tingling and burning. I would think that it would since it would possibly clog up the tiny blood vessels that feed the nerves. please let me know, thank you
I had a mild case at DX, still get twinges if I eat too many carbs and BG goes to orbit. What I noticed, and this is my thinking only based on my symptoms, is that the tissue surrounding the nerves gets damaged by high BG. Once BG is controlled, stays under 140mg/dl, these tissues begin to heal. As with any healing tissue pain can be expected, with nerves this can include a host of other symptoms, I still get cramps in my toes.

So short answer, as the tissue heals, yes you can expect a temporary increase of symptoms. If your case isn't too severe they should start reversing in a few weeks of tight BG control.

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I had a mild case at DX, still get twinges if I eat too many carbs and BG goes to orbit. What I noticed, and this is my thinking only based on my symptoms, is that the tissue surrounding the nerves gets damaged by high BG. Once BG is controlled, stays under 140mg/dl, these tissues begin to heal. As with any healing tissue pain can be expected, with nerves this can include a host of other symptoms, I still get cramps in my toes.

So short answer, as the tissue heals, yes you can expect a temporary increase of symptoms. If your case isn't too severe they should start reversing in a few weeks of tight BG control.
i have had an a1c 0f 5.0 since march of 2012 but i was not aware of nerve damage starting at 140 so i was going over that plenty of times 165-180 and still had a good a1c. just recently in the last 2 months have i kept a normal blood sugar of rarely go over 105 but can too much good healthy fat slow down the healing of nerves and still be eating 80 carbs, please let me know

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I have recently tried the high fat low carb diet but I still am having problems, such as green beans mixed with flax seed and olive oil with cod fish, Walnuts and olives for breakfast. Within 1 hour my hands are cramping up along with tingling lips and face and etc and I have been eating diets like this. Does a high fat diet still cause numbness and burning until the nerves regenerate. I am taking r-lipoic acid, epo, vitamin c (diabetic neuropathy cocktail) and other supplements to help as well. So i guess my main question is does healthy fat cause (1200 Calories a Day) or contribute to the numbness, tingling and burning. I would think that it would since it would possibly clog up the tiny blood vessels that feed the nerves. please let me know, thank you
Dietary fat does not cause clogging up of blood vessels. That idea was presented with faulty science and logic, and the myth persists to this day, although more and more cardiologists are discovering the error of this idea.

A LC/HF diet actually lowers cholesterol. And fats have no effect on blood sugar levels. It doesn't make sense that fats would aggravate neuropathy. So perhaps the answer is elsewhere - perhaps an allergy or sensitivity to one of the foods you are eating?

I'm going to throw out this idea, just as an off chance this might be relevant. When my husband had shingles, he took some neuropathy type drugs to address the nerve pain. They actually had the opposite effect in that he was in more pain and the sores itched more than when he didn't take it. This is not-uncommon reaction to some of these drugs.

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