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Old 09-08-2012, 14:35   #31
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I drank two and so far my bg so far is still in the 6 range, i was at 4.1 before i drank it.. did not feel good at all.. sweating when it was chilly inside. good thing Ive always caught it when it gets that low.. should have a snack before bed.
4.1(73) is a great number. Once you acclimate to the lower numbers you will feel fine. I woke up to a 3 (56) this morning. Although I felt a bit off I didn't treat because it would be momentarily that my DP would kick in. Within 15 min I was up to 4.7 (86).

False hypos feel just as nasty as true hypos. Try to ride them out. Your body will adjust. Always test though when you feel it. You want to treat it when its truly low and going low fast. I use a 1/2 tsp of honey in the middle of the night when I'm not coherent enough to chew something. During the day I eat Smarties candy or Skittles.

Our first reaction when we treat a true hypo is to eat whatever we can get our hands on because we feel so bad. While doing this makes us feel better quickly. It comes at a price which is a rebound high which can take forever to get back down

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4.1(73) is a great number. Once you acclimate to the lower numbers you will feel fine. I woke up to a 3 (56) this morning. Although I felt a bit off I didn't treat because it would be momentarily that my DP would kick in. Within 15 min I was up to 4.7 (86).

False hypos feel just as nasty as true hypos. Try to ride them out. Your body will adjust. Always test though when you feel it. You want to treat it when its truly low and going low fast. I use a 1/2 tsp of honey in the middle of the night when I'm not coherent enough to chew something. During the day I eat Smarties candy or Skittles.

Our first reaction when we treat a true hypo is to eat whatever we can get our hands on because we feel so bad. While doing this makes us feel better quickly. It comes at a price which is a rebound high which can take forever to get back down

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That is true i felt like eating anything with sugar, so far i have not budged .

Wife had a bunch of coupons for Glucerna and diabetic boost. glad she did not have to pay for em all.. ill just let her take em to work with her, she loves the taste of em. me to i thought they had to be too good to be true

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Dave, just keep in mind that the fats we eat are not "bad" fats...like hydrogenated or chemically produced. The fats we eat are "natural" fats that our ancestors have been eating for years and years. Coconut oil is probably one of the best fats you can use as a diabetic, and it was a staple in every kitchen before the 70's-80's when they came out with these false claims that saturated fat caused heart disease. My triglycerides were at almost 7,000 at one point, and my cholesterol was over 1,000; and all this while I was on a statin medication! This was also when I was eating what the ADA claimed was a "healthy" diet for diabetics including all the whole grain, fruits and such, all while eating low fat or fat free. Once I adopted eating low carb/high fat, my cholesterol dropped to 136 and my trigs (at one point) dropped to 169. I've battled cholesterol and trigs for a good 20 years now, and they never, and I mean NEVER dropped like that from diet, exercise and a statin drug. My levels are back up right now, but I quit my statin and I expected a rebound effect. Hopefully they will go back down again. I'm not too worried yet and I continue to eat things like coconut oil, olive oil (on salads only or as a dip), cream cheese, sour cream, avocados, olives, cheese, sausage, bacon, some animal fat on beef and pork, sardines, salmon just to name a few. I do not use milk anymore; instead we switched to Almond Milk and Heavy Cream. I still use half and half, but only because it is cheaper than using heavy cream all the time in my coffee, and I drink a lot of coffee!

I guess I'm pretty lucky that I never had a problem with pancreatitis in my past when my numbers were crazy high.

Also, as far as being blind or choosing to be blind to the diabetes, many of us have been there. Me especially. I ignored it for a long time thinking it would just disappear or something. I didn't test or worry about it. But, when my Mom passed away from end stage renal failure at the age of 66 due to diabetes, my eyes were opened up and I had my "aha" moment.

Just stick around here and you'll get the hang of all this. Pretty soon it will not be such a big deal. It will become second nature to you and you will feel so much better for it.

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Dave, just keep in mind that the fats we eat are not "bad" fats...like hydrogenated or chemically produced. The fats we eat are "natural" fats that our ancestors have been eating for years and years. Coconut oil is probably one of the best fats you can use as a diabetic, and it was a staple in every kitchen before the 70's-80's when they came out with these false claims that saturated fat caused heart disease. My triglycerides were at almost 7,000 at one point, and my cholesterol was over 1,000; and all this while I was on a statin medication! This was also when I was eating what the ADA claimed was a "healthy" diet for diabetics including all the whole grain, fruits and such, all while eating low fat or fat free. Once I adopted eating low carb/high fat, my cholesterol dropped to 136 and my trigs (at one point) dropped to 169. I've battled cholesterol and trigs for a good 20 years now, and they never, and I mean NEVER dropped like that from diet, exercise and a statin drug. My levels are back up right now, but I quit my statin and I expected a rebound effect. Hopefully they will go back down again. I'm not too worried yet and I continue to eat things like coconut oil, olive oil (on salads only or as a dip), cream cheese, sour cream, avocados, olives, cheese, sausage, bacon, some animal fat on beef and pork, sardines, salmon just to name a few. I do not use milk anymore; instead we switched to Almond Milk and Heavy Cream. I still use half and half, but only because it is cheaper than using heavy cream all the time in my coffee, and I drink a lot of coffee!

I guess I'm pretty lucky that I never had a problem with pancreatitis in my past when my numbers were crazy high.

Also, as far as being blind or choosing to be blind to the diabetes, many of us have been there. Me especially. I ignored it for a long time thinking it would just disappear or something. I didn't test or worry about it. But, when my Mom passed away from end stage renal failure at the age of 66 due to diabetes, my eyes were opened up and I had my "aha" moment.

Just stick around here and you'll get the hang of all this. Pretty soon it will not be such a big deal. It will become second nature to you and you will feel so much better for it.

Very encouraging to hear My father had type 2 as well and he lost both his legs and had multiple stokes. but he did not take care of him self at all. you would think that would push me harder but i guess i wanted to push it away that i was, after he passed away, is when i found out. it does scare the hell out of me that i will or was falling down the same path as i from what i know became diabetic before him, although i don't know many details as i was a lot younger when he lost his leg's and such.


I am scared of the future, and what will become of me with this. but even more so if i don't kept doing what is needed to become and stay more healthy.

This forum is amazing, wish i would have looked a long time ago for a place like this. i am though having a hard time convincing my wife that the low carb/high fat diet is the way to go. she believes or or has a hard time going against what the doctors and the dietitian at the diabetic clinic say.


me on the other hand, i have a very open mind to this. i wanted to go low carb before i came here. as to me it made more sense, but just did not know how to go about it the right way.


and i think i am on the right track, soon ill go and get blood work done. just wanna wait a bit and see how things settle now that i am not killing my self with a really bad life style.


and i am feeling better and i think, well hope to say my feet feel better. i hate saying cause i don't wanna jinx my self :P

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There are plenty of doctors who now recognize the benefits of low-carb/high-fat. Some of the more high profile ones are Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, Drs. Michael & Mary Dan Eades, as well as Dr. Richard Bernstein.




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Dave, my husband had a hard time believing that low carb and high fat was good for me because I have always had problems with high cholesterol and high trigs. The low carb wasn't the problem; it was the high fat. I kept trying to tell him that its not like you are sitting down and eating a huge vat of coconut oil, or butter, or any of the stuff we can eat. Nobody said you have to go crazy on the fat, just use it instead of low fat or fat free. The carbs are what you must avoid. The high saturated fat is what will keep you full and satiated so you don't crave those carbs. Just incorporate the good stuff into your daily eating plan or habits and it becomes second nature.

Don't worry about your wife either; this is you...you are the one who has diabetes and you are the one who feels the neuropathy in your feet. You must follow what is right to you. Don't bother fighting about it either. Just believe in what you feel to be right and it will be fine.

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Dave, my husband had a hard time believing that low carb and high fat was good for me because I have always had problems with high cholesterol and high trigs. The low carb wasn't the problem; it was the high fat. I kept trying to tell him that its not like you are sitting down and eating a huge vat of coconut oil, or butter, or any of the stuff we can eat. Nobody said you have to go crazy on the fat, just use it instead of low fat or fat free. The carbs are what you must avoid. The high saturated fat is what will keep you full and satiated so you don't crave those carbs. Just incorporate the good stuff into your daily eating plan or habits and it becomes second nature.

Don't worry about your wife either; this is you...you are the one who has diabetes and you are the one who feels the neuropathy in your feet. You must follow what is right to you. Don't bother fighting about it either. Just believe in what you feel to be right and it will be fine.

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You are right it's strange i am eating more fat, yet less food but not as Hungary. sugars seem fine as well.

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See? You just have to trust those here. They would not recommend something that hasn't worked for the majority.

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See? You just have to trust those here. They would not recommend something that hasn't worked for the majority.

That is why i am here everyone here has been an amazing help

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