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Old 03-04-2013, 04:02   #1
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After 4pm most nights, my blood sugar is between 300 and 400. I get super thirsty and pee a lot.

I take Lantus, 70 units, at 9pm.

BS in the morning is usually 170.

How concerned do I need to be when my blood sugar is above 300? Some of my EMT friends tell me I should go immediately to an ER with those numbers.

Is there any way to bring down a high number quickly?

I'm not currently on any other medication or any other type of insulin.

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Yes, those are scary numbers.

No fast way if you mean overnight, but keeping your carbs under 30 daily will have an amazing effect on your readings in a couple of days or at least less than a week. Do be aware of a need to lower your night Lantun as you lower your carb count. That's exactly why you need it, to attempt to cover your high carb meals.

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Lantus is a long acting insulin and doesn't work to correct high readings. You would need a rapid acting insulin for that. Look into basal-bolus insulin regimen for more info on that.

Yes. You should be concerned with readings that high. What are you eating to get readings that high would be a first area to look at. Perhaps reducing your carb intake would help bring your numbers down.

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Your lantus is meant to cover the basic background bodily functions and it will not cover the food you eat. You do need to look into basal/bolus management, and if your doctor hasn't already mentioned it, then you'll have to make as issue of it. Your numbers are too high to be healthy.




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Yeah my diet is pretty bad, I won't lie. It might be the antithesis of what it should be. I'm having a hard time giving up carbs and sugar. And I don't eat meat or eggs so I think I'm on a low protein, high carb diet right now.

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Give up carbs and sugar for a couple of weeks and you'll lose that craving for them. It's really amazing how it works. Just try it...If not, you may need to add a short acting insulin or other drugs.

Just give it a try, okay?




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I would really look at cutting those carbs and sugar out of your diet. If you don't eat meat or eggs (are you vegan?), then you can get your protein in other ways. You really need to cut the carbs and sugar...it is the only way. Trust me when I tell you I've been through the gambit and have dealt with this for many years. It wasn't until I went lc/hf that my numbers improved. I used to have highs between 350 and 450 on a daily basis. I typically do not rise above 180 anymore, and I really try to keep those 180's at a minimum. I deal with quite a bit of hormonal imbalance right now, but hopefully when the hormones calm down, so will my numbers. I have progressed to an insulin pump and it helps me a great deal. Basal insulin, as Shanny stated, will not help cover the food you eat as it is a background insulin. A bolus insulin, or fast acting, covers meals and corrections for highs. I will warn you however, if you go to using a bolus and continue to eat the way you are eating, you are going to gain quite a bit of weight because you will be using quite a bit of insulin combined. Even using 70 units of Lantus, I'm sure you are probably beginning to experience weight gain with your way of eating.

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Welcome to Diabetes forum.

Yes your EMT friends are correct.

With those numbers you will go blind, you will loose your feet. you will die.
The GOOD news is your BG is controllable.
your morning number is not too bad but still over 140, your other numbers indicate your diet is the culprit. We know carbs raise BG, ALL carbs.

a fast insulin is used along with Lantus its called a Basal/Bolus regime. and will go a long way to controlling your numbers.

Insulin is not a free pass to eat all the carbs you want. you will gain a lot of weight that way.

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I am a low carb vegetarian. I personally could NOT do this without eggs. Sorry, chickens. :-(

Basal-only will get you into a heap of hurt! I was on it, hated my results, I researched it and found out Joslin Diabetes Text recommends it as "safer." Yeah, like dead, blind, on dialysis, or double amputee is SAFER???

I added novolog for meals, and my A1c is now 5.7 (after a couple yrs of experimenting, down from 6.0).

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Yes thank you all! I realize I need to stop eating the way I've been eating. I've even considered going back to eating meat because it seems like the best way for me to eat low carb.

I appreciate you all giving me a pep talk on this and scaring me. hahah

I gotta get my act together.

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