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Old 01-19-2014, 20:27   #11
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Thanks for the info, gfaith.

If you were only recently diagnosed with Type 2 do you know what caused the CKD? Also, what is your was your weight before you started LC/HF and what is it now?
Morton I added some more info to that first post.. Be sure to read it.

Okay the CKD we are not sure what caused it but I have been like with creatinine of 2.0 for some ten years. My nephrologist treats me for high blood pressure and potassium levels. I used to power lift that really raised my BP dramatically for short periods of time and I basically ate ALEVE.. due to pinch nerve.. I no longer take Aleve or any over the counter like it.

Weight , oh-boy I was up to 267 eating like a powerlifter that was no longer lfting LOL.. When my sugar toxicity hit > 300 all the time for three months I lost around 20 pounds.. That was all glacogen from my liver and water .. Now I am down to 243 this AM so looks like I have lost another 4 pounds. The weight loss is great but the BG below 140 at all times is my main goal.

Jenny Ruhl the lady that has the BloodSugar 101 website has 2 book that I highly recommend. One about our diet and the other about things people don't tell you about diabetes. Check my profile and you can see how things are going with me. I am trying to stay up with it daily for now. My up-coming trip Jan 22 may make that tough.

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I have a family member dealing with decreased kidney function, but is slowly regaining it back to a good range for her age. Her GFR went from her lowest of a 54 to 83.
GFR can naturally decrease with age. Kidney disease is sometimes diagnosed in older folks when it shouldn't be. We attribute her regaining health to having good blood sugar numbers, and this is due to eating lchf. She also takes a supplement thiamine (B1) 100 mg 3 x daily. I found studies showing taking thiamine can decrease the excretion of albumin in the urine by 40%. The supplement is cheap so it's definitely worth a shot taking it.

As for food... off hand, I remember soft cheeses, cauliflower and eggplant are kidney friendly foods. Eggplant can almost replace a meat if you slice it and oven roast it with olive oil. For nuts.. macadamia and coconut products are good options.

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If you were in the mid 40s then I believe technically you were in state 3 of CKD. And even mid 50s is borderline. Did your doc ever talk to you about moving off Metformin?
The perameters for stage 3A kidney disease are 45-59 - moderately reduced kidney function - the treatment of which is observation along with control of hypertension, which we are doing. My doc and his lab have set 60 as the goal, and we accept the 55 as a great improvement, so no, he hasn't offered to take me off metformin. Controlling my blood sugar is the absolute priority here. I have a history of kidney stones, and that may enter into it also - I'm on medication for it and have not had a stone in 15 years.




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My creatinine levels dropped from 4 to under 1 very quickly once I stopped lisinopril and started insulin, reversing my stage 3 CKD DX.

BP also returned to normal, but, Gfaith, that also coincided with weight loss of over 75 lbs. plus stopping my six-day a week lifting routine.

Two years later, microalbumin is creeping up over 35. Naturally, the standard advice includes limiting protein, but I don't think the amount I eat on a low carb diet is high at all.

Everything seems to return to managing glucose. None of the drugs worked for me, but I'm type 1, so it's got to be insulin, low carbs and appropriate exercise.

You might as well skip the glipizide as that will trash your beta cells eventually anyway and go straight to insulin if diet and exercise don't work.

Of course, you'll have to convince your doctor; sometimes difficult.

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My creatinine levels dropped from 4 to under 1 very quickly once I stopped lisinopril and started insulin, reversing my stage 3 CKD DX.

BP also returned to normal, but, Gfaith, that also coincided with weight loss of over 75 lbs. plus stopping my six-day a week lifting routine.

Two years later, microalbumin is creeping up over 35. Naturally, the standard advice includes limiting protein, but I don't think the amount I eat on a low carb diet is high at all.

Everything seems to return to managing glucose. None of the drugs worked for me, but I'm type 1, so it's got to be insulin, low carbs and appropriate exercise.

You might as well skip the glipizide as that will trash your beta cells eventually anyway and go straight to insulin if diet and exercise don't work.

Of course, you'll have to convince your doctor; sometimes difficult.
Thanks Tamagno that is exactly what I am in the process of doing. Well I stopped the heavy lifting some 10 years ago. Working on getting off all the medications that I possible can, and I do believe that will be quite a few. With weight loss, proper diet and exercises that are appropriate as you stated.

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My GFR went from 30 to 56 3 days later. I don't know whats going on but I called my doc this morning to see if I could go back to Metformin. Office was closed because of holiday, I'll call tomorrow.

I was doing some research and it may have been the l-glutamine I was taking heavily, sometimes up to 8-10 grams a day. I stopped that at the same time I stopped metformin so its hard to say what was causing the drop in GFR.

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My creatinine levels dropped from 4 to under 1 very quickly once I stopped lisinopril and started insulin, reversing my stage 3 CKD DX.

BP also returned to normal, but, Gfaith, that also coincided with weight loss of over 75 lbs. plus stopping my six-day a week lifting routine.

Two years later, microalbumin is creeping up over 35. Naturally, the standard advice includes limiting protein, but I don't think the amount I eat on a low carb diet is high at all.

Everything seems to return to managing glucose. None of the drugs worked for me, but I'm type 1, so it's got to be insulin, low carbs and appropriate exercise.

You might as well skip the glipizide as that will trash your beta cells eventually anyway and go straight to insulin if diet and exercise don't work.

Of course, you'll have to convince your doctor; sometimes difficult.

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My GFR went from 30 to 56 3 days later. I don't know whats going on but I called my doc this morning to see if I could go back to Metformin. Office was closed because of holiday, I'll call tomorrow.

I was doing some research and it may have been the l-glutamine I was taking heavily, sometimes up to 8-10 grams a day. I stopped that at the same time I stopped metformin so its hard to say what was causing the drop in GFR.
Could have been the l-glutamine - depending on the brand there could also be other stuff in that like creatine that will cause problems.
Body building supplements are notorious for that.

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as of yesterday, I'm trying LC/HF
egg beaters and turkey bacon breakfast
Egg Beaters and turkey bacon are things a person eats when they want to cut down on fat. When we eat 'normal' (high carb) our bodies burn carbs for energy, but when we eat low carb, our bodies burn fat for energy. You should be eating regular bacon and eggs. Try to stick with the fats that are recommended at the 'lchf for beginners' website.

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Yeah, I'm still learning. Yesterday I had an egg, onion and some melted cheddar. This morning I went with ham for a change of pace but I noticed the ham was low in carbs AND low in fat. Also, I'm not quite sure how much to eat and I'm finding that snacking might be a challenge. I don't know what to eat when I want a snack.


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Maybe this will help: http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...at-snacks.html

When you're cutting carbs sharply and getting enough fat in your meals, we usually say you can eat to satiety and then stop. Don't gorge, but do eat until you aren't hungry. Ham will be lower fat than regular pork bacon, but still - if you like bacon, go with the real thing.

Getting enough fluids helps too . . . and it seems for me, that getting the fats & fluids up enough is harder than getting carbs low enough! So I start out with a quart of whatever beverage - usually iced green tea - and make sure my breakfast is high fat - like this morning, leftover chuck roast/green bean stew with extra butter melted into it. I have no compunctions about scooping up two or three tablespoons of butter and slopping it into whatever I'm eating!

And a great many people drink bulletproof coffee with their breakfast, which is a stellar way to get a headstart on fats of a morning.




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