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Old 02-07-2012, 03:42   #11
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Check you vitamin D level as well, some recent studies and persona lexperience are linking low Vit D levels with neuropathies. And if you haven;t already, see a neurologist.
Wow there is so much to learn. I am newly diagnosed not even a week yet and I have the feet problems. When I saw my Doc last week he of course did full bloodwork. The next day he called to tell me I also have very low vitamin D and he may want to give me prescription vitamin D. Until reading your post I had no idea that it could be related to neuropathy. I guess I will know for sure if I get the prescription.

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I have chronic Plantar Faschitis which causes inflammation under my arch and heel. Wearing a good orthodic in my sneakers alleviates a lot of the pain.
Hey Jwags, I think I have Plantar Faschitis also, and dunno how best to treat it. Did you get a podiatrist? Will the orthodic allow enough rest for full recovery? It's frustrating because it's an impediment to my exercise routine.

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Wow there is so much to learn. I am newly diagnosed not even a week yet and I have the feet problems. When I saw my Doc last week he of course did full bloodwork. The next day he called to tell me I also have very low vitamin D and he may want to give me prescription vitamin D. Until reading your post I had no idea that it could be related to neuropathy. I guess I will know for sure if I get the prescription.
My vitamin D was 30 at diagnosis 3 months ago, and I've managed to get it up to 85 now (last Saturday) with just 1 tablet of supermarket Vitamin D (1000IU) a day. Doctor was impressed. I slather myself with sunscreen and wear a wide-brimmed hat when taking my daily walk so that doesn't help. I don't replenish it during the day however, so probably get some benefit when I go out into the garden for whatever reason. I'm very fair-skinned (Celtic heritage) and live in the melanoma capital of the world, so have to be careful not to get unscreened sun exposure.

 
 
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Some find Alpha-Lipoic Acid helps
Be careful of Alpha Lipoic Acid. It can cause Thiamin deficiency or make an existing deficiency MUCH worse (as in leathal). According to several studies I've read most diabetics are already Thiamin deficient.

Speaking of which, the OP should get tested for Thiamin deficiency, it can cause nerve damage and (if the studies are right) is pretty common in diabetics.
However it's considered very uncommon in most developed countries so Doctors usually don't test for it. I know I was having problems with Neuropathy for a year and a half before I read about Thiamin deficiency and asked my doctor to test me (none of my numerous doctors ever thought to test it)

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If I'm not mistaken, I think these studies where performed on people taking high doses of ALA who where alcoholics. Alcoholism will also cause thiamine deficiency. Not sure if I believe this because ALA does have some beneficial effects for diabetic. Will look into it further though.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think these studies where performed on people taking high doses of ALA who where alcoholics. Alcoholism will also cause thiamine deficiency. Not sure if I believe this because ALA does have some beneficial effects for diabetic. Will look into it further though.
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I have only been diabetic for a little over 2 years. Right from the start I had peripheral neuropathy. Since about a month after I was diagnosed, I've had my diabetes well controlled (last A1C was 5.6)
In addition to the Metformin I was taking Cinnamon to help control my glucose, and Acetyl L-Carnitine and Alpha Lipoic Acid for the peripheral neuropathy.
So despite taking the supplements and keeping my glucose under control the Neuropathy was getting worse so I had my doc test me for every deficiency I could find that was associated with diabetes.
Two things showed up. My Thiamin levels were so low they didn't even register and my fasting insulin levels were at the very bottom of the normal range (despite having a fasting glucose of around 110 at the time)

I was also having problems with muscle cramps during exercise.
I didn't know about the issues with ALA until I had to stop taking it the beginning of January for surgery. After not taking it for a week I noticed the muscle cramps weren't as bad so I looked into the side effects of ALA.

Now maybe it's a coincidence that I had severe thiamin deficiency and low insulin levels while taking the ALA, or maybe they are related.
I currently take 200 mg of Thiamin a day and my last Thiamin test was about middle of the normal range. I stopped taking the ALA 2 months ago. I'll give another 3-4 months and get my Thiamin and Fasting Insulin levels checked again. If they go up, then I'd say that's a good indication that the ALA was the problem.

On the down side, since I stopped taking the Acetyl L-Carnitine and ALA my Neuropathy is getting worse again.


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Hey Jwags, I think I have Plantar Faschitis also, and dunno how best to treat it. Did you get a podiatrist? Will the orthodic allow enough rest for full recovery? It's frustrating because it's an impediment to my exercise routine.
Unfortunately as I understand it Plantar Faschitis in older T2DM may be caused or exacerbated by the tendons in the lower leg becoming less elastic and in effect shorter due to glycation. If so, then it will just keep coming back. If this happens then one's weight will tend to shift to the ball of the foot making the ball and tendon very sore. I do sets of 10 jumping jacks to try to make the tendons a little more elastic and put a little bounce back into my step. It seems to help a little but it was a little hard on my knees until I got some bounce back and now it doesn't bother my knees any more.

I also roll a 15 oz food can with my foot under my foot to massage the tendon and increase circulation while I am at the computer doing nothing

It's just another "use or lose it" I think.

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my neuropathy was in feet only but now there is numbness in my right hand also.
i don't know how to cure it.i have been taking 200mg ALA once a day and pregabalin 75 mg 3 times a day for neuropathy.

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I'm T1 and been diabetic longer than you, but the highs of blood sugar cause neuropathy the same regardless. Basicaly gavity slows the circulation up the leg and this causes old blood and moisture to not be pulled back up into the body, hence the burning sensation. What I have found to work well for me is:
To soak my feet in hot epsom salt water for 20 minutes, then to lay on the seat of the couch with my legs pointed up the back of the couch and watch TV for thirty minutes. (Many shows are better upside down.) This causes the stale blood to be drained out of the feet and returns fresh circulation to them. My doctor told me this years ago and I have been very thankful ever since.
Hope this works for you.
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