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Old 05-07-2017, 23:34   #11
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As time has worn on and the generalised bloating has subsided, leaving only pain in my upper abdomen radiating through to my back, I realise that what I have is probably pancreatitis or something related (I've had gall bladder issues but not for 40 years) I'm hanging about by the phone waiting for the doctors rooms to open so I can see someone, hopefully today.

In the meantime, my diet is reduced to the least amount of fat I can have. I always worried about it with the LCHF but I think this finally kills it for me. I just cant process fat properly. I'll have to find another way. Last really fatty stuff I had was a couple of chicken drumsticks yesterday for tea, and oh boy did I suffer for most of the night. REALLY nasty pain (which leads me to think its gall, rather than pancreas). I'm on water this morning and hoping that the pain wont get triggered off again.

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my son had pancreatitis and if you have that, ALL foods will set it off. The pancreas will secrete acid anytime you eat which will inflame the pancreas since there is a tear.

With what you are saying, it doesnt sound like pancreatitis

good luck and keep us informed

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I had my gall bladder removed back in 1975. Until I started LCHF there were no issues unless I ate a lot of nuts.

I now take Ox Bile with fatty meals and have no problems. It provides the extra bile that my body can't. (My doctor didn't know anything about this.)

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I have an appointment to see my usual GP in a couple of hours. I must confess, apart from feeling somewhat peckish, fasting has had a good effect. Its all a bit twingey still, but no food has helped enormously. Anyway, will see what the doc says later.

Thanks so much for your input, its helpful to me. @hftmrock I do hope you're right!!! @VeeJay I hope that just giving the gb a rest for a while and then going back to my old low fat (but still low carb) diet will be enough.

[edit] and another rather nice side effect is a lower BGL. 6.6 this morning. 5.1 a few hours later

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I have read that it's actually the low-fat way of eating that causes gall bladder problems. Don't have a site to link to - just what I remember reading. Something to do with all that bile being stored but not used so it begins to crystallize.

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I have read that it's actually the low-fat way of eating that causes gall bladder problems. Don't have a site to link to - just what I remember reading. Something to do with all that bile being stored but not used so it begins to crystallize.
This is actually quite true. In fact, it is the reason why most women end up losing their gall bladders sometime in their 40s - repeated low fat diets. However, it can happen in a single event - I went for 4 months barely eating anything a few years ago and CT scan for another medical problem showed gall bladder was perfectly fine. 6 months later, it was beyond inflamed and had to be taken out. No major stones though - I really should have pushed to have them just sonic bust them, but I was too sick to argue.

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Well, I dont have gall issues, nor pancreatitis. My doc is a cluey guy and he reckons, based on his examination and how I was presenting, that its gastritis. YAY! Thats pretty easily fixable. 2 Omeprazole a day instead of one and if not clear by Friday, call him and he will do some more blood tests. However, in the last lot of bloods, everything was fine, including liver and kidneys (well liver is still "fatty" but the results are the best I've ever had) so LCHF must be the way to go. (Except I have been doing MF rather than HF, because HF makes me feel nauseous)

Anyway, a good report. I may eat tonight or not, right now theres such a pain in my tum but I really cant tell if its hunger or the "itis". A mushy avocado might be the go.

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And... a general update...

The abdominal pain only subsided for a while, with 2 Omeprazole daily, and its come back with a vengeance. I've now had to add Mylanta, and gaviscon at night. Doc appointment today.

And, to add insult to injury, had appt with cardiologist last week and it seems I have "stiffened muscles" in my heart, it can't pump properly, and lungs get fluid on them all the time. More meds (Aldactone 25mg + frusemide 40mg daily) and a comment from him "no wonder you cant walk anywhere or do anything much!!" We used to call it congestive cardiac failure but its not exactly that. The annoying thing is that I went to another cardiologist about 10 years ago, with exactly the same symptoms and he did SFA. Oh well. Heart disease goes with the diabetic territory too... just one more issue.

Sometimes it seems like my life is just about keeping my diseases in check. Depressing, really.

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For gas, try going zero fiber. Fiber is the only major source of gas.

For slow stomach emptying, it can have various causes. One very common one - which is also very easy to remedy - is low stomach acid. I have this. A single 600 mg Betaine HCL in the MIDDLE of each substantial meal completely fixes this for me, eliminating both slow stomach emptying (fixing digestion) and reflux.

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Well, I'm being sent to a gastroenterologist. Its someone I have seen before about the other end. It will be OK. Doc has taken me off omeprazole and given me something else (rabeprazole). Its still a proton pump inhibitor but where one stops working the other might. ONly had one dose, too soon to tell. Whatever the case, I wont miss the pain.

BGLs are all over the shop, can only eat some foods and not suffer. One of those is mashed potato. Don't have it much but gawd I am so sick of pureed chicken and veggie soup. It will be mash tonight.

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