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Old 06-27-2017, 12:41   #11
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Most doctors know very little about diabetes or nutrition. They mainly rely on the ADA (American Diabetes Association) mis-information.

Curious, why did you stop using coffee and dairy?
I think the coffee was keeping my sugar high, I seem to have a system that reacts strange to some things. Laughing gas at the dentist makes me cry, muscle relaxers gives me panic attacks, Benadryl makes me a crazy woman move 100+ miles per hour, until it wears off.
Yesterday morning, I thought I would try a cup, because I miss holding a warm cup of coffee in my hands. That was the first reading in 4 days that was above 145. The rest are in the low 130's (3 of them) the others are below 125. I'll try again, and again to make sure I get the same results, cause I really like my coffee. Once things settle down, I'll try it black, with no cream.
Ira to keep good documentation, one what causes what, and like to try them at least 3 times. I try to eat only foods we raise, so that eliminates a lot of knowing what's in the foods, or something the food companies are passing off as natural, but I can't eliminate all of it. Eat a different breakfast, to see if I get the same results.

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I always find it so weird that some people have a raise in blood sugar from coffee, but that is how caffeine affects some. Thankfully, not in my case.

When I was at Starbucks, they made me a Skinny Mocha using whipping cream. Probably 1000 calories, but zero carbs (and a little splenda).

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Sometimes coffee (caffeine) sets off one's adrenal glands to put out hormones that cause that rise in BG. Does tea or other caffeinated drinks do the same thing? I'd ask about decaf, but thinking I would be suggesting that others drink dry cleaning chemicals isn't an appealing thought.

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You might try decalf coffee that uses the Swiss method. Google "Swiss Water Logo" for specific brands. They do not use chemicals in their process, but it costs more to do this method so most coffee brands won't use it. Rather than switch to decaf, I just switch to black tea which has less than half the caffeine of coffee. FWIW - dark roast has the least caffeine of regular coffees.

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I like to keep trying different things, so I tried coffee later in the afternoon. Same result, I went from 108 to 124. I was going to try coffee without 1/2 & 1/2, but sour cream, cheese, and butter don't raise my BG so I don't think it's the 1/2 & 1/2. I don't use heavy whipping cream, because all I can find is heavy whipping cream with mono & . It is known to cause diabetics, so until I am looking for a heavy whipping cream without it. I do have a milk cow, just no time to milk. I'm going to try decafe coffee, I just can do hot unsweetened tea. I can drink it as ice tea just fine.
And can anyone tell me if this liver dumping thing stops? I mean it empties out sometime, right. I have noticed it's only going up about 20 points, which is down from a few months ago. Does eating before the liver dump work? I do know that fats and proteins before bed has helped, and changed the time from about 12:30-1:30am to about 4:30- 5:30am. The lowest I have found before a liver dump is 106, so I think my body is still adjusting, to what normal is.

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1/2 & 1/2 is half milk, half cream. Cream has no carbs in it, milk has some. So, go for the full cream.

For about 5 years, I found that eating a cheese/cracker snack before bed prevented morning blood sugar from going above 110 most of the time. After that 5 years, it didn't make a difference whether I ate or not, it was getting higher so I quit the regular snack and only had it if I had an acid stomach. I didn't know then I had LADA however, so that probably made the difference.

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Do you mind telling me what LADA is? I'm good with heavy cream, but having my own milk cow, I know there does not need to be extra stuff in it. When I find some with out the mono & diglycides I'll surly get it. Right now the 1/2 & 1/2 I'm buying don't have anything but milk and cream. I sure would like to have fresh cream, I have a little jersey named Honey.

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What Is Bad About Mono- & Diglycerides? | LIVESTRONG.COM
This is what I have found on mono & diglycerides.

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Do you mind telling me what LADA is? I'm good with heavy cream, but having my own milk cow, I know there does not need to be extra stuff in it. When I find some with out the mono & diglycides I'll surly get it. Right now the 1/2 & 1/2 I'm buying don't have anything but milk and cream. I sure would like to have fresh cream, I have a little jersey named Honey.
LADA is Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults. It is basically the same as type 1 and just comes on a lot later in life. Some sort of damage to the immune system results in antibodies attacking your pancreas resulting in little to no insulin production. However, you have this long honeymoon period where you are producing insulin, then not, then producing, then not. So, I still produce insulin, but not consistently. I still have insulin resistance however. So, it's kindof a crapshoot. However, knowing I have LADA means the docs aren't going to give me designer drugs as they do T2 because they aren't going to be effective for me. Metformin DOES help, but I can't take it anymore due to gut pain. As I lose weight, I will likely lose the insulin resistance, but will always have to remain on insulin.

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Oh I have never heard of his. Sounds difficult to manage. I wish you the best of luck.

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