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Old 06-04-2012, 13:49   #1
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NY Times - Salt, We Misjudged You - Gary Taubes 2nd June 2012

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I used to buy into the whole Salt is bad contraversy and have rethought it. I think the basic problem is not salt but processed food that most Americans eat. They eat way too much. I have found that since eliminating processed food my diet tends to be deficient in salt . So I have started sprinkling back on food. In the early 2000's I did the DASH diet mainly for my husband who has high BP. The result was I got Diabetes.

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My mother consumed only No Salt, for years. Surely there is a reason we CRAVE salt?

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I feel much better when I eat to my salt appetite. So some days I need a cup of salty broth (usually when I'm "starting over" on low-carb), and other days I don't feel like salting my food very much. When I ignore my need for salt the consequences are swift: headaches galore!

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I do not think Taubes mentioned the hypothesis that excess circulating insulin causes HTN .. . take away the carbs (which ALSO cause water retention, of course!), and the salt does not matter?

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I do not think Taubes mentioned the hypothesis that excess circulating insulin causes HTN .. . take away the carbs (which ALSO cause water retention, of course!), and the salt does not matter?
Correct, he doesn't go very in-depth in this article. I thought he's mentioned that theory before but maybe I'm mixing him up with the Eades or Phinney and Volek.

Here's one of his original articles on salt, that is quite extensive.

The (Political) Science of Salt (PDF)
Gary Taubes - Science Magazine
The article is broken into 7 parts:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7

I actually keep a list of all my favorite Gary Taubes articles just so I can quickly link to them when needed.

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I do not think Taubes mentioned the hypothesis that excess circulating insulin causes HTN .. . take away the carbs (which ALSO cause water retention, of course!), and the salt does not matter?
It did get an hint of a mention...
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The best evidence on the connection between salt and hypertension came from two pieces of research. One was the observation that populations that ate little salt had virtually no hypertension. But those populations didn’t eat a lot of things — sugar, for instance — and any one of those could have been the causal factor.
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On a similar theme to your comment: I wonder if you have been reading Dr Peter Attia's series The Straight Dope on Cholesterol? Often I find the comments (in which he is very active) just as illuminating as the post itself. In the latest of the series he suggest in the comments that:
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Everything we have learned in the last few decades about lipidology must be taken [with] a very important caveat — it was learned on a population of carbivores…
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At the risk of nullifying [what] I’m in the process of explaining with respect to cholesterol, it’s possible (i.e., needs to be tested) that EVERY one of these risk predictors is irrelevant in someone who is ketogenic.

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