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Old 07-09-2012, 22:36   #1
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Stumbled upon these in the grocery store and decided to give them a try. I was happily surprised that they tasted pretty darn good. I like them refrigerated. I just need to know these would be considered a good food choice for a type 2er? I'm still getting used to reading labels, so I'm not 100% sure on this one ...

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Without looking into ingredients list, since that's where a lot of hidden carbs can be found as these are used for flavorings, I'd say it would be good on a salad with a full fat dressing to kick up the F:P ratio a bit.

But otherwise it looks pretty typical for canned fish.

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Well the thing is that the Metformin you take is primarily a fake substitute for the Omega-3 FA in those fish and if you ate a can of those a day, then you might negate your need for Metformin. I was told by a doctor to stop using Metformin because my kidneys are weak so I switched to sardines or salmon each day instead of Metformin. My insulin sensitivity factor stayed the same at 10 mg/dl per unit insulin but my meal time carb to insulin ratio changed from 5 carbs to 10 carbs per unit of Novolog so now I take half as much mealtime insulin for the same carbs.

If you have become a devout "Metformin Worshiper" like many on the forums this might not be welcome. However if Metformin gives you digestive problems, then it would be a blessing if you can stand to eat fish every day.

Also Omega-3 does not cause any dysfunction of your liver so it will not impede any liver dump, unlike the poisonous Metformin.

Metformin is a lot cheaper than fish and I dislike the taste of oily fish. .

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Well the thing is that the Metformin you take is primarily a fake substitute for the Omega-3 FA in those fish and if you ate a can of those a day, then you might negate your need for Metformin. I was told by a doctor to stop using Metformin because my kidneys are weak so I switched to sardines or salmon each day instead of Metformin. My insulin sensitivity factor stayed the same at 10 mg/dl per unit insulin but my meal time carb to insulin ratio changed from 5 carbs to 10 carbs per unit of Novolog so now I take half as much mealtime insulin for the same carbs.

If you have become a devout "Metformin Worshiper" like many on the forums this might not be welcome. However if Metformin gives you digestive problems, then it would be a blessing if you can stand to eat fish every day.

Also Omega-3 does not cause any dysfunction of your liver so it will not impede any liver dump, unlike the poisonous Metformin.

Metformin is a lot cheaper than fish and I dislike the taste of oily fish. .

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Does the o-3 have to be fish based or can it be from alternate source such as flax seed?

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Does the o-3 have to be fish based or can it be from alternate source such as flax seed?

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From my POV (70 years old), 6 Tablespoons of Flaxseed oil well mixed with homemade yogurt a day for 4 months increased my ISF even greater ( 15 mg/dl/U ), but my body destroyed it in about 6 weeks after I reduced it to 1 tbs a day. Also my hearing and sight improves with eating fish. Fish oil by itself is just a blood thinner. It has to be combined with a sulfated amino acid to be used as a building block for cell walls, so just taking fish oil capsules is nearly useless except as a blood thinner. The chemistry of a T2DM (high free radicals I think) destroys all of the fragile Essential Fatty Acids very quickly. Taking a Primrose oil capsule with it helps a little also.

I was a follower of the Budwig Protocol which reportedly could reverse T2DM, but Johanna Budwig herself said that reversing T2DM seems harder than reversing cancer. Plus 80% of my Beta cells are inactive which the protocol did nothing for. It just removed the 1.5 units of insulin per hour blockage that I had (insulin resistance?) so my FBS dropped from 174 mg/dl (FBS being limited by Kidney leakage of glucose) to about 120 mg/dl even without using basal insulin.

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Well the thing is that the Metformin you take is primarily a fake substitute for the Omega-3 FA in those fish
how is metformin like omega-3's?

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Well the thing is that the Metformin you take is primarily a fake substitute for the Omega-3 FA in those fish and if you ate a can of those a day, then you might negate your need for Metformin. I was told by a doctor to stop using Metformin because my kidneys are weak so I switched to sardines or salmon each day instead of Metformin. My insulin sensitivity factor stayed the same at 10 mg/dl per unit insulin but my meal time carb to insulin ratio changed from 5 carbs to 10 carbs per unit of Novolog so now I take half as much mealtime insulin for the same carbs.

If you have become a devout "Metformin Worshiper" like many on the forums this might not be welcome. However if Metformin gives you digestive problems, then it would be a blessing if you can stand to eat fish every day.

Also Omega-3 does not cause any dysfunction of your liver so it will not impede any liver dump, unlike the poisonous Metformin.

Metformin is a lot cheaper than fish and I dislike the taste of oily fish. .

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Wow, Jim, thank you so much for that information!

That is fascinating and I've never heard it before. I had enough reasons to never touch Metformin - blocking of vitamin B12 and decreased testosterone in men - but this is even stronger.

Please try to post more often - I miss your contributions.

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