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Old 08-10-2012, 13:57   #1
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Question Lipids after 4 years of LCHF

I'm asking the people who read lipid-science as a hobby to please comment on these numbers. I thought my HDL and LDL were set after the 2010 and 2011 testing showed stability. Now in 2012 they take another step towards "goodness."

My LDL is now down to where a statin put me. I don't have the pre-statin values.

My HDL is on the high side of high. The limited forum references I've found suggest 117 or so was the highest seen.

Can high HDL and low LDL indicate a problem?

Incredibly, my endo will still probably want me on a statin.

My question: why the 2012 change? It doesn't make sense to me that a particle size change would affect both HDL and LDL, especially where TGs have been stable and very low. To me it seems like I am making less LDL so resources get pushed to HDL -- assuming LDL grabs resources first. Could my cholesterol need be down? I've eaten more veggies and fruit, hence the higher A1C, but I've also eaten more coconut oul and drank more wine [1 a day]. Exercise has stayed the same, low. Weight has drifted up.

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WHOA, John! Those numbers look fantastic!

My guess is the red wine increased your HDL. But everything else looks so promising ... hard telling! Congrats on a gorgeous profile, though. Wish mine were anything near that.

Do you take any supplements? As I recall, no ... anyhow have you changed anything, like that? Diet composition?

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I've no answer to your question - only here to express awe ...

Wow.

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WHOA, John! Those numbers look fantastic!

My guess is the red wine increased your HDL. But everything else looks so promising ... hard telling! Congrats on a gorgeous profile, though. Wish mine were anything near that.

Do you take any supplements? As I recall, no ... anyhow have you changed anything, like that? Diet composition?
I hadn't been taking my Ramipril, but it's only 2.5mg. Once in awhile I'll pop a D3. Nothing else beside what I mentioned. Will alcohol reduce LDL too? I've always had a glass of wine every 2 or 3 days.

I'm really questioning the whole SF=high cholesterol argument. Do any studies cover very low carb for 4 years?

**btw these are conversions from metric

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Wow -- off your ramipril, even -- excellent!

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Wow -- off your ramipril, even -- excellent!
I'm taking it now. *not shown any protein since 7 or 8 years. I found with my weight and A1C drifiting up, my BP also rose. I'm now re-focusing on dropping weight back down and getting the BP under control. So far so good. Down 6lbs in last 2 weeks and BP 120/65 but with a couple of high readings mixed in: 156/85 was a shock. I was very stressed that day.

I plan on re-starting weight training tonight and keeping it up.

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Those are some impressive numbers! Sorry I don't have much speculation on why your HDL has increased so dramatically. However, I know enough people who have HDL of 100 on LCHF that I personally would not be anything but proud of that 112.

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I'm taking it now. *not shown any protein since 7 or 8 years. I found with my weight and A1C drifiting up, my BP also rose. I'm now re-focusing on dropping weight back down and getting the BP under control. So far so good. Down 6lbs in last 2 weeks and BP 120/65 but with a couple of high readings mixed in: 156/85 was a shock. I was very stressed that day.

I plan on re-starting weight training tonight and keeping it up.
Your numbers look great to me, John, and your response to creeping A1c, weight and b/p is certainly appropriate . . . I can't imagine there's any risk attached to higher HDL, but researching medical studies is useless, since those guys have the lipids thing all upsidedown anyhow.




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For what its worth here is a cholesterol chart

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medi...erol-range.htm

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I do not monitor bp at home, but if I did I bet I could get off ramipril ... IF I can drop any more weight!!!

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