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Old 08-28-2012, 05:39   #1
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New to the forum. Dx last fall with type 2 and lost some weight but put it back on. take metformin 500 2-3 x daily, pretty non-compliant with the meds and take them when I remember, ( and I ***** and my patients when their A1C's suck). What I'm really looking for is some really quick low carb meals/snacks I can take with me to the office or grab when I'm out and about. thanks in advance.

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Hi! Go to our recipe section and look at them...some really good ideas there. Hope you'll hang around and tell us more about your self and how you treat your condition.

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well I'm 44, 5'9" 195 lbs, stable for years. Used to bodybuild and still have a lot of muscle mass, (my teen sons wish they had near my shape), but I have a gut and have done wt watchers a few times and lost 20-30lbs each but go back to my high carb lifestyle. I'm a nurse practitioner in Pennsylvania and obviously am knowledgable about DM, but not as good as some of your guys here. Last fall started with urinary frequency, vague fatigue, vision just not right and one day in the office I was 305 non fasting. my last A1C was 6.9 in May but this summer I've had some really high numbers. I'm not taking the metformin as well as I should and I think I need a higher dose. Not getting any regular exercise now and struggle to eat good. I know as a medical professional I should set an example.

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Have a look at my signature. Metformin is a crutch, IMO. At your pretty mild level of the disease I highly doubt if you need any medication of any kind. Just start tallying what you eat. Basic simple math. Add up the calories from carbs, those from protein and those from fat. Tweak them until life is good. It's not hard. In fact, it's MUCH easier than Weight Watchers!

Also, you will need to forget just about everything you've learned about diet and nutrition. In fact, if you need to make it very simple a good starting point is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of everything you've learned - pretty close - and then you can adjust from there. For example:

1) Eat as much fat as you can. For most diabetics, 75 - 80% of calories will work nicely.

2) Make sure you get ENOUGH salt. When in doubt eat more. Lack of salt can cause fatigue.

3) Favor saturated fats over polyunsaturated. The later are unhealthy when eaten in excess and a source of inflammation.

4) Completely avoid man-made or highly man-modified fats or foods of any kind.

5) Keep protein low - about 15% of total calories.

6) DON'T cut calories. Eat enough food to supply the energy you need.

7) DON'T eat every few hours. Wait until you are actually HUNGRY which on this VHF diet might take a LONG time (as much as 12 hours or more)

8) DON'T eat lots of fruit. Only very few things are acceptable (e.g., berries) and only occasionally and in small quantities.

9) Green vegetables - OK, here I mostly agree with the "authorities" - BUT they must be positively smothered in real butter. And, NO starchy vegetables at all.

10) Don't avoid foods because they contain "cholesterol". That is voodoo medicine. Egg yolks and beef ribs are the ultimate health foods. Consume with abandon - just dump the bread and other starches.

You'll see - MUCH easier (and HEALTHIER) then Weight Watchers.

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Salim makes a good point - you may be able to do this without the met. Two suggestions: BloodSugar101 and LCHF for Beginners. I realize most of this is going to run contrary to everything you were ever taught about managing diabetes, but when carbs are what raises our blood sugar, it makes absolutely no sense to continue eating carbs. How ever the cult of whole grains & fruit got started, it does a huge disservice to the diabetics of the world. BS101 is particularly good at explaining and she cites everything she says with the research/studies to back it up.

Second part of the remedy is high fats, which have long been disproven as risks for CVD. So load up on natural saturated fats and monounsaturated fats to replace carbs as your source of energy. If you can get into ketosis, more the better. Your body can run efficiently on ketones, and for the 5% of functions that require glucose, gluconeogenesis will provide.




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Yes, high fats works for me. Some days ago I was visiting a very close friend in my age and his new young wife and child. Some years ago he had a quite mild heart attack and since then he´s on medicine and has a diet of low fat having margarine instead of butter and no cream, fat cheese etc.
I had dinner and ate of the steak where all the fat was removed and was served a very small piece of herb butter. When I told him I wanted some more butter he was surprised. Saying that it might be riskful.

So what am I trying to say? Well, just by not following the conventional advice from dieticians my values have ​​become better while he trusts the advice from his dietician. But it's his choice and I'm not trying to make him change his diet although I must admit I once told him that he seems to have too much food containing sugar.

And finally, scojoy. Hope you will find good information and ideas on this forum. It has helped me a lot. Good luck!

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I found I need the maximum amount of metformin to controlmmynliver dumps. As a medical professional you know what you need to do. First start testing at 1 and 2 hours after you eat. I aim for 120 or less at 2 hours. If a food spikes me more that it goes on my avoid list. Every diabetic responds differently carbs. I am quite thin but still have some belly, which I am working on. I love the recipes on here but there are tons of low carb blogs you can get great ideas. some of my favorites are

Ginny's Low Carb Kitchen
Your Lighter Side
Linda's Low Carb
Sugar Free Low Carb Recipes

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Scojoy - based on your history within bodybuilding it can be difficult to change mentality from the typical bodybuilding diet, i mean it works for most BB's & they look ripped so it should work for me?.... Well not always.
Based on the info you provided & assuming you still work out, i would reccomend following eatstrongcomau
The Eat Strong Nutrition System was formulated for athletes with diabetes so would assue you still fall under that based on your muscle mass.

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wow, I have been trying a no (virtually no) carb diet since seeing these post and my sugar has plummetted! Wes, I'm going to look into the eat strong system. WOW, thanks guys.

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salim, how would you compare this to lets say a Paleo diet?

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