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Old 01-21-2013, 20:34   #1
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For those who are on a ketogenic diet, any starting tips?
Did you jump right in, or gradually reduce?
What fats do you eat?
What veggies do you rely on?

I read with interest the "its the protein, stupid" thread, and I am very interested, just wanted to get some help from the veterens out there! Right now, I think I am eating too much protein. I ate most of a t-bone steak last night for dinner (and nothing else) and my numbers have been high all day.

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I pretty much jumped in full go. I'm new to the forum and D, so I haven't been at it long. So far I have been using green veggies for my veg serving, green beans-not great, cabbage, broccoli, spinach.

For fat boosts I have used butter (not margarine), and veggie dips made by Marzetti, specifically guacamole and blue cheese. Pork rinds are a good snack, but are high in protein in proportion to fat.

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Protein Calculator - SweetGeek And this is Daytona's protein calculator which can get you squared away with how much is too much, since we know that any excess protein not used for repair & maintenance of body mass is converted to glucose.




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Thankyou for posting the Protein Calculator link, I thought I had over consumed protein today, but I was right on target by the calculator.

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Thanks Shanny. I didn't know that about the protein until I read that other thread.

Thing is: I have no idea what my body fat % is! Lol that might help with the calculator!

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I'm sure Salim will be along shortly to help you out. For myself I really don't calculate anything. I went this route to avoid worrying about calculating carbs, last thing I want to do is worry about fat, carbs, and protein. What I do is not eat any grains or any starchy veggies. Protein, natural fats, carbs in the way of low starch veggies. All veggies are cooked in butter or coconut oil. I don't seek out fat but I don't avoid it either. Best part of a steak is that sizzled fat around the edges, emmmm..

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Thing is: I have no idea what my body fat % is! Lol that might help with the calculator!
Then tell it you don't know, that's what I did. There's a button there that flips you to the next page where you can either measure yourself, or ask it to estimate your BMI.



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Then tell it you don't know, that's what I did. There's a button there that flips you to the next page where you can either measure yourself, or ask it to estimate your BMI.
Maybe I should rename that button to "I don't know". (EDIT: Duly updated!)

3babygirls, keep in mind that the protein range is indeed only a starting point and not gospel. Once you get your range figured out, pick a place to start, for example if you aren't an athlete, for a lower but not lowest number.

Try that amount of protein for a few days and evaluate your BG, how satisfied you are after the meal and how you feel overall, after exercise, etc. After talking with many people I have seen that everyone must test themselves to find a livable balance.

For example, I have played with both the high and low end of my protein range. At the low-end my BG was amazing but I was ravenous. It wasn't something that I could maintain. At the high end, I was quite happy with my meals but my fasting BG was between 20-25 points higher. Right now I am smack in the middle and have increased my fats quite a bit in order to feel satisfied and my fasting BG is normal.

It's all a balancing act and you can't go for long short-changing any one area. Please feel free to ask questions or post info on your experiments. Lots of members here have gone through the same process and have great ideas on how to tweak things.

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Maybe I should rename that button to "I don't know". (EDIT: Duly updated!)
That is so neat . . . can't believe I helped! lol!




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Thanks Shanny, I didn't even see that button! (on my phone).

Daytona, the calculator says I may need 60-90 g of protein. My BS is still out of control, so is the high side going to be enough to lower it? Or will it be enough to go into ketosis? Also, my understanding is that carbs should be about half of protein, correct?

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