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Old 05-19-2013, 23:14   #1
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I started LCHF about 6-8 weeks ago. I've lost weight, but have noticed that after I eat a salad and a cup of vegetables that my blood sugar will go up to 126 and hover there for a while. Now, this isn't nearly as bad as the 200's I was at before--but it still is what it is. I am drinking the atkins protein shakes, and I have to because I have low potassium and spinach just isn't doing it. I think I might have low sodium too--but the b.g. "crash" seems to be coming when I drink them. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't get in to see my dr for two weeks

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What is wrong with a post prandial 126 ? That is a good number.

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Abby, I see salad and vegetables (both proteins) and then protein shakes....where's the fat? You're consuming so much protein and the excess is being converted to glucose. Try upping the fat and lowering your protein intake and you should notice better numbers. Many LCHF followers have low sodium so compensate with a bit of salt if you feel it will help. As for the potassium, is it that you don't like spinach or that it isn't providing adequate levels of potassium? Regardless, try adding brussel sprouts with bacon, asparagus and cabbage into your salads or as a side dish (not both).

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What is wrong with a post prandial 126 ? That is a good number.
126 may be good postprandial for a full meal, but 2 cups of salad and 1 cup of broccoli mixed with green beans? To me it seems that my diabetes is still showing up even though I'm on Atkins.

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126 may be good postprandial for a full meal, but 2 cups of salad and 1 cup of broccoli mixed with green beans? To me it seems that my diabetes is still showing up even though I'm on Atkins.
I've run into a similar situation, where if all I have for a meal is salad, then I'm running in the 120's. I attribute it to poor meal proportions (fat to protein to carb), since it's nearly all carb (good carbs, but carbs nonetheless) except for the dressing. The dressing doesn't provide enough fat to offset the carbs.

Not familiar with the Atkins shakes so I have nothing to say there.

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126 may be good postprandial for a full meal, but 2 cups of salad and 1 cup of broccoli mixed with green beans? To me it seems that my diabetes is still showing up even though I'm on Atkins.
I have tried several Atkins products. While most are tasty, the amount of sugar alcohols used to sweeten most of them nearly always gave me at least a 30 point spike. So no more Atkins products for me.

Perhaps you're having similar results?

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Abby, I see salad and vegetables (both proteins) and then protein shakes....where's the fat? You're consuming so much protein and the excess is being converted to glucose. Try upping the fat and lowering your protein intake and you should notice better numbers. Many LCHF followers have low sodium so compensate with a bit of salt if you feel it will help. As for the potassium, is it that you don't like spinach or that it isn't providing adequate levels of potassium? Regardless, try adding brussel sprouts with bacon, asparagus and cabbage into your salads or as a side dish (not both).
Okay I use butter and cream, here's my day:
2 scrambled eggs with bacon and butter, or omelet with spinach, a few chopped up tomatoes mushrooms and bacon and butter. If I don't use bacon or butter, then I will drink 1 cup of herbal tea with no caffeine, like mint tea with a big dollop of home made whipped cream or heavy cream.

Lunch--big salad, lots of different kinds of greens, mushrooms, a few tomatoes, boiled egg, bacon and a tablespoon of cheese with applecider vinegar and olive oil dressing and pepper.

Dinner--1 big piece of Salmon, 2 cups of boiled spinach, or green beans, or broccoli, or salad etc... ad infinitum depending on what I want 2 cups of that night I'll put butter on my salmon and my greens or salad dressing (obviously) on my salad.

In between I might supplement with an atkins shake. I also drink a ton of water througout the day because I can't seem to stop using the "loo" and I probably consume about 10 glasses of water because I'm continuously thirsty.

That's my day--yet my bloodwork comes back with low Na and Low K, and I haven't been checking my b.g. because in the morning's it's been between 70 and 99 So I checked today after just two cups of salad veggies and a mix of broccoli and green beans and it was 126 two hours after. It just seemed like a lot to me--and the salad had fat dressing on it and cheese--fat. I would think the Fat would slow the absorp of carbs also. I just feel like 126 is too high for 3 cups of green veggies. I know diabetes never really "goes" away, but this diet had my diabetes under good control--or so I thought. Maybe I'm over-thinking this. I just figured other type II's might have gone through the same thing and be getting the same numbers.

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Thank you, and that does make sense. Damn this disease! I loathe Diabetes. Already have mild neuropathy and gastroparesis from it. Ugly, ugly disease.

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Already have mild neuropathy and gastroparesis from it. Ugly, ugly disease.
One of the results of gastroparesis is that it can cause very erratic blood glucose levels since the food you eat is not being digested as it should.

Here's a quote about gastroparesis:
"Fluctuations in blood glucose due to unpredictable digestion times (in diabetic patients)"

This may be part of the problem. but as noted above, maybe those Atkins shakes are also causing spikes. Might try nixing them for a few days to see if numbers improve.

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Your meals seem to be just fine (although still a bit rich in protein from veggies) so I'm with the others in that the likely culprit is your Atkin shake supplementation. Have you tried testing without them for a given period of time (I think you'd need to be rid of them for a while before your levels show a true value not influenced by the) shakes.

A 126 is not that bad, as others have mentioned, and I have gotten 126s before as well for no explicable reason. It really is such a fickle disease!

Now back to the potassium problem.... first of all, my diet was pretty similar to yours each day yet my potassium levels were in the normal range as were my sodium levels so I'm wondering if something else is causing the imbalance. The only time I ever get a dry mouth is when I go too high carb and then I need to drink water like mad. Also, your "bathroom" problems might be associated with the sugar alcohols in the Akins shakes as many of us have had similar experiences when it comes to processing those sugar alcohols.

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