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Old 06-12-2013, 12:29   #1
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Default How can one be so against vegetables while another so for it, don't get it?

Reading Hyperlipid and some other blogs where they are totally against vegetables, Peter from Hyperlipid talks about how vegetables change DNA while others also say humans are not meant to eat vegetables, than you have the other side saying how vegetables have many good things in them, now i'm pretty layman's when it comes to reading all this stuff, understanding some of it only, but these guys a pretty smart guys, and how can they all have different views so often?

Understand for diabetics that vegetables have carbs and carbs rise BS, but just in general regarding vegetables, these guys seem really smart as i said but they just don't seem to agree, on this one.

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Except lowering carbohydrates being beneficial especially for diabetics all other things in nutrition are controversial. There are opinions of all kind, there are some were there is a preponderant amount of evidence in their favor to me that is the case of vegetables, others are just wild guesses. But some people will follow nutrition advice like a cult, no matter what evidence there is they will follow their bias no matter what. That’s why is good to present studies and arguments in both side of the issue so that you that are going to have to choose and suffer the consequences of your decision have the information on what path to follow.

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there are some were there is a preponderant amount of evidence in their favor to me that is the case of vegetables,
I didn't understand this sorry in who's favor? against vegetables i am assuming?


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My own experience, I do a lot better if I eat my veggies like my mother told me to. If I go for several days eating nothing but fats and meats my BG will reflect the change and start to elevate. If I get some veggies in me on a daily basis my BG stays nice and low and where I want it to be. I eat a wide variety of colors, thats what I go by, color. The majority of it being green.

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There are very few times I have craved vegitables but it has happened and there are many I enjoy, I have a hard time believeing that we evolved by eating things that were gross that we had to choke down. So some of this stuff I am not sure we were ever meant to eat it.

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I always tell my kids and wife when it comes to our younger grand children, under 2 yrs old. They have a built in and unbiased understanding what their body needs at any given time when they sit down to eat. I feed them a wide variety of foods at every meal, fats, carbs, proteins, fruits, veggies and let them pick what they want. Some days all they want is carbs, other days its proteins, some days its fats (cheese). I've seen them go for days wanting nothing but protein and fat, then sit down and eat veggies and fruit till they nearly explode. I wish that ability was maintained through adulthood. Would be easy to just listen to your body's true needs and not have to try and figure it out all the time.

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Having a 12-yr-old and a 9-yr-old carb monster kid, I disagree ... kids crave sweets and often reject protein.

It is GROSS around here ... I push protein (and fat with it!) -- the 9 yr old can eat half a chicken in one sitting, but the 12 yr old won't CHEW much. She can take 3 hrs to finish 3 oz of meat. Left to her own devices she would eat crackers, only, continuously.

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You noticed I said under 2 yrs old. I got a 6 yr old who lives on carbs alone. Can't get that boy to eat protein to save his life. Odd thing is he is highly active, extremely active, can go all day on a pop tart, not my doing I'll have you know. But this little boy could would win a muscle building contest, he has maybe 5% body fat, can do chin ups and has abs showing at 6yrs old. All his muscle are extremely well defined. I fuss at my daughter for feeding him this way, but what can you do.......



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Having a 12-yr-old and a 9-yr-old carb monster kid, I disagree ... kids crave sweets and often reject protein.

It is GROSS around here ... I push protein (and fat with it!) -- the 9 yr old can eat half a chicken in one sitting, but the 12 yr old won't CHEW much. She can take 3 hrs to finish 3 oz of meat. Left to her own devices she would eat crackers, only, continuously.

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Remember that the internet is a refuge for every crackpot, goofball, off-the-wall wacko, and general nutbag, who has a theory on anything.

Without a working "baloney" detector, one is pretty much at sea. You will have to read and make up your own mind what makes sense and what doesn't.

Just as an example, "Man is not meant to eat vegetables." is a prime example of pure horse-puckey. Look at hominid dentition, and see if you still believe that statement.

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It is GROSS around here ... I push protein (and fat with it!) -- the 9 yr old can eat half a chicken in one sitting, but the 12 yr old won't CHEW much. She can take 3 hrs to finish 3 oz of meat. Left to her own devices she would eat crackers, only, continuously.
It is gross... I have a 9 Year-Old that is the same way. I can get him to eat chicken, but other than that he is all about grains or starches. My 4 Year-Old son did grab about a 1 ounce chunk of Colby-Jack out of the fridge the other day and start munching on it. My wife declared that "gross" but I stood up for the little fella and encouraged that over the bologna sandwich on white bread she was trying to foist on him.

I'm in the fight of my life to get the rest of my family to wake up to what they are eating. A while back they had pizza, and I mentioned that 4 pieces of pizza was too much for a 9 year old. A few hours later I saw him in his room eating another... I looked in the box and 4 more were missing. The Kid fired down an 8 cut!

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