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Old 07-04-2013, 04:38   #1
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I have been told it is not necessary to be in ketosis, just control carbs. Now I read too much protein is not good. How many grams of carbs and protein should I be shooting for each day. Please help.

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It depends on many things. Among them the nature and severity of you condition and what you want to achieve.

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I have been told it is not necessary to be in ketosis, just control carbs. Now I read too much protein is not good. How many grams of carbs and protein should I be shooting for each day. Please help.
Have you read the information here: www.bloodsugar101.com

Each person reacts to food is a unique way. Testing with your blood glucose meter will help you find what works best for you.

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Ketosis is an interesting new option. There is almost no support from the medical community except a handful of wonderful doctors who have realized its value, so you're very unlikely to get any help from medical professionals you see. You can learn a lot about it on the internet and from a number of books by those MDs I mentioned and others.

If you decide it interests you, the glucose meter is actually of limited usefulness. In that case, a blood ketone meter is a better guide.

There can't be much doubt that keeping blood sugar within the range that non-diabetic folks have is a good idea. It should do a lot to improve your condition, slow or stop complications and possibly slow or stop progression, although most, even those in favor of "full control" seem to surrender to the idea that progression is inevitable and the most that can be hoped for is to slow it down.

I personally believe that maintaining ketosis is a more comprehensive way of addressing our condition. Since it results in normal blood sugars 24/7, it is a "superset" of the aforementioned "control" method. I believe it will not only normalize blood sugars and stop/reverse diabetic complications but will also completely stop progression of the disease.

Can I or anyone prove this? No, not yet. it's too new, there are not yet enough of us doing it and NONE of the deep research pockets will even think about funding research into it. In spite of that, there are a significant number of studies which support this idea.

By its very nature, it can't make big profits for anyone and so it gets left out in the cold. It also flies in the face of some very cherished, but wrong, myths such as the Lipid Myth, popularly known as the "Lipid Hypothesis". These things are crumbling day by day, but at glacial speed. No only 50 years of really bad science but also huge financial interests stand in the way, unfortunately. The entire medical community will suffer a huge loss of credibility if it happens too quickly.

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Not much to add to SMorgan's posts, but I do keto-genesis-deepening fat fasts once a month ... I am losing weight (Was not, before). They are VERY strict on protein intake. I eat ketogenic but with protein, in between these.

I do NOT use a meter as I am supporting a family of 5 and the strips are pricey. I have learned that citrus-y burps are a fair indicator I am in ketosis, though!

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