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Old 08-12-2013, 05:48   #11
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Test before and after first bite and have a reading under 140 to learn the foods, meals that drive you over than limit where damage is thought to cause harm.

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I think you should be clearer that testing after the first bite is testing 1 or 2 hours after, not immediately after.

At first, it's recommended you test at some lower intervals, starting about an hour after your first bite, such as every 15 minutes from 1 hour to the 3-hour mark. Just to get a feel for when you hit your peak. Some people just test at the 2-hour mark, without regard to where their spike is, and look to be 120 or lower. Others want to find where the peak is and try to test then, and keep that peak under 140. But that peak can vary depending on what foods you eat, and other factors. It's too much for me to try to gauge when my peak will be because when I did detailed testing before, my peaks were all over the map. So for me I just test at the 2-hour mark these days. Some people will test 2 or even more times after each meal, if they're really concerned about keeping it under a certain number.

Anyways, the concept of eating to your meter means gauging how much certain foods spike your BG, and eliminating all foods that spike it above your target. However, it's important to realize that at least initially the target isn't some fixed number of a reading, but rather the amount of increase from your number you got just prior to eating. For me, I seek out no more than a 30-point increase. Some set targets even lower. But I end up always getting about a 20-point increase after I wake up due to something called the Dawn Phenomenon. For some people, they get it before waking, but I get it after waking and eating breakfast, but before testing at the 2-hour mark, so I need to consider that if testing to my meter for breakfast foods. I end up not experimenting with breakfast due to that effect, but choosing a meal for my breakfast that I tested at lunch or dinner to be sure how much of a spike it'll register then.

Anyways, there's two things you need to consider with regard to meter testing:

One is getting your fasting BG numbers down to a level you're comfortable with, and with it your peaks below a certain level. I think it's generally accepted that fasting should be under 110 and 2-hour PP be under 120. That's ideal if you can get it down there, though some of us like to get it as good as possible, with a fasting number getting as close to 70 as possible. This is using your meter to check how well your BG numbers are doing, but I wouldn't say it's "eating to your meter". It's just the result of successfully eating to your meter.

Second is minimizing the spikes (difference between fasting and PP numbers) to what you specify as your target, based on testing which foods spike you a lot and which foods don't. Then choosing the foods that don't spike you much. That's the actual eating to your meter part. But both are necessary for good control of your BG.

And if you can't get your numbers down to what you think is ideal for you, just get them down as much as you can, and then figure out from there if you can improve it more via medication, insulin, exercise, or whatever. We're all different in that respect as to what works, but "eating to your meter" is the very first step you need to do in order to figure out what your diet needs to be. It was the key factor that was missing in my diabetes education, and without it, control for me was impossible.

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Sorry but what does everyone mean when they say eat to your meter?
Eat to your meter

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Test before and after first bite and have a reading under 140 to learn the foods, meals that drive you over than limit where damage is thought to cause harm.

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I am confused. Most posts say around the 80's and 90's before eating. Is under 140 my aim for the 1 hour post meal BG?

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First, thanks Aaron for the catch. I was very negligent in the way I worded it in that post.

Jrney2, the answer is that you should test after 1 hr and yes, it should be under 140 both then and also after 2 hr. Ideally, at 2 hr. it should be near the reading you got before eating.

I hope this helps!




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Once you decide what your target limit will be, then the goal is to stay under that number at all times. So if 140 (7.8) is the limit, then you should try to stay under 140 (7.8) at all times. If any foods bump you up over that limit, then avoid that food, or reduce portion sizes.




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Once you decide what your target limit will be, then the goal is to stay under that number at all times. So if 140 (7.8) is the limit, then you should try to stay under 140 (7.8) at all times. If any foods bump you up over that limit, then avoid that food, or reduce portion sizes.
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