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Old 10-31-2013, 13:31   #1
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Is taking fish oil supplements healthy? When I research fish oil, I see it is high in omega 3 fatty acids. It states that these fatty acids are high in essential polyunsaturated fatty acids. They state foods high in these fatty acids are salmon and other fish but also things like canola oil. I steer clear of all the oils high in PUFAs but if the fish oils are full of PUFAs and PUFAs are bad, why is fish oil/fish so good for you?

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Nooo-ooo not canola, nor grapeseed nor any refined seed oils!

I use a supplement derived from algae, for EPA and DHA; it is what the fish ate to get their EFA's! It's not PUFA's per se, it is the omega-3 specifically that you want.

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From everything I've read, it is my belief that you'd be much better off eliminating Omega-6 PUFAs from your diet than adding Omega-3 PUFAs. The only reason we "need" Omega-3s is because most of us eat WAY too much Omega-6. The latter are very harmful and inflammatory. The former is the antidote. You don't need much of either one. Any LC/HF diet will have more than enough PUFAs so they are not a concern - other than eliminating the Omega-6s the biggest source of which is "vegetable" oils, more accurately called "industrial seed oils". That includes Canola! A definite no-no in my book.

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For me, supplements are a waste. I think a person will do better eating a small amount of fish then taking any old pill.

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For me, supplements are a waste. I think a person will do better eating a small amount of fish then taking any old pill.
(unless, of course, they have a personal reason to not eat fish!)

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Yes I stay away from all oils except for olive oil (for a dressing) and coconut oil(for just about everything else) and butter. I was just curious how they can name salmon and canola oil in the same sentence, as being healthy for the same reasons. When I thought salmon was healthy and I know PUFAs are not.

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Look up the wikipedia for omega-3's it is well worth understanding.

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Ok from what I just read, it is very difficult to make your omega3 to omega6 ratio better. Almost everything we eat is higher in omega6, which includes olive oil. If you truly eat primal/paleo, then you have a better chance of getting the ratio to a good place. You would need to eat all grass fed cow products along with pastured chicken products. I do attempt to buy these products but they are not always easy to come by. I have yet to find pastured eggs from any market. I can get grass fed beef and cheeses at a few stores.

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You can use supplements and raise your Omega 3s. This will change the ratio. If not eating LCHF already, you might be able to cut PUFAs some and change it some more. Eating more fatty fishes (Atlantic Salmon, sardines, herring, etc.) is a good source, rich in Omega 3s.

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