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Old 03-10-2014, 01:14   #1
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Haha. I don't know if I believe this but since we all know I oppose the diet I thought I'd post this.

Eating large amounts of meat, cheese may be as deadly as smoking, study shows | Fox News

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This study was conducted by Dr. Longo and his researchers. It's too bad for him that it was discovered just after this study was published that "Dr Longo, has declared interests in (actually, he’s the founder of) L-Nutra – a company that makes ProLon™ – an entirely plant based meal replacement product."

lol - perhaps he shouldn't have a financial interest where he conducts his research and then try to steer people in the direction against where he has financial stakes. It would certainly give him much more credibility, since his credibility was blown days after his 'study' was published.

(source - Animal protein as bad as smoking?!)
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I just thought it was funny and relevant to my hatred of the high fat aspect of the diet. I've still found myself making more and more of the recipes I see on here but I'll never admit it..

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"Hatred" is just another word. When you hate something/someone very much, you spend a lot of time just thinking about it. It may not be hatred just your reluctance to admit that you may be wrong.

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"Hatred" is just another word. When you hate something/someone very much, you spend a lot of time just thinking about it. It may not be hatred just your reluctance to admit that you may be wrong.
The last fifty years of intense brainwashing and propaganda from all fronts (junk science, popular media, doctors, fad dietitians, etc.) was INTENSE. I think all of us had a difficult time coming to grips with just how totally incorrect it all is. It's downright visceral. You FEEL its effect as you try to eat even the fatty parts of the rib or put pure butter in your coffee along with the cream. It is possible to recover from the damage done, however, many have done it!

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We are in some cases people who have had serious health issues and have not only improved since adopting this diet but improved dramatically. Our laboratory results show it. Our doctors have seen it and are in some cases astonished.

Nevertheless, we can always depend on some jackass telling us we're doing it all wrong.
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"Hatred" is just another word. When you hate something/someone very much, you spend a lot of time just thinking about it. It may not be hatred just your reluctance to admit that you may be wrong.
That's easily the most ignorant way of putting it. The diet does not work for me and I don't agree with it. That doesn't make me wrong. It makes me different from you. I can't control diabetes with diet and exercise. You don't know what I live with, and hopefully you never will. But don't assume what works for even 4,000,000 people works for everyone.

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ebaeuchea, I hope your feelings aren't hurt by the often pro-LCHF threads here. You'll find a lot of people on LC/HF here because when we go to other forums we are derided and in come cases outright banned for our views.

It doesn't mean that you have to eat that way to be here. I try to support everyone in this forum. It does mean that sometimes the people who've discovered LC/HF works for them can get a bit giddy and excited. It doesn't mean we want to pretend the diet works for absolutely everyone, we're just so very happy it works for us. And perhaps a bit defensive because in the real world, people look at us eating fat and think we're eating badly.

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That's easily the most ignorant way of putting it. The diet does not work for me and I don't agree with it. That doesn't make me wrong. It makes me different from you. I can't control diabetes with diet and exercise. You don't know what I live with, and hopefully you never will. But don't assume what works for even 4,000,000 people works for everyone.
Yeah, as a T1, you are absolute right. LC/HF indeed does "work" without any further qualification for a large number of T2s. It often does good things for T1s too, but ultimately only insulin "works" for T1.

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Many Type 2s (like me), also need diet, plus exercise, plus meds. Same is true for many Type 1s.

We are here to help each other. In the end, however, we must each carve our own paths ... and not try to argue each other out of any successes.

This thread seems to be an attempt to start such an argument. Thread is now closed.

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