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Old 04-22-2014, 20:35   #1
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I've been intrigued by all the reports of good results with diabetes by people following Neal Barnard or the CHIP program of the Seventh Day Adventists. But whenever I try to eat this way (basically just veggies, no animal products) my blood sugar shoots skyward. I panic and go back to low carb high fat. Is there an adjustment period? How long? I'm sure it's very individual but any real life experience with this changeover would be most appreciated. Thank you.

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WHO has good resaults? I never met any one that has had good resaults, only people like you where there BG goes up. remember Neal Barnard is a BIG P.E.T.A supporter.

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That diet may work because it is quite low calorie. As a person reduces weight on that diet, there may be better uptake of insulin by cells. But it is not scientific but more of a propaganda. I am hearing ducks quacking

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I did meet someone who had very good results with CHIP. I've always dismissed Barnard because of his PETA activity but this person made me wonder if I'd been too hasty.

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Why is it considered healthier to not eat meat. This makes no sense at all to me.

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Hi there! I think the ones you need to ask are the people that are on that program. They must have a forum for that WOE. Or maybe how to his website. I was a vegetarian until I got diagnosed with type 2 a couple of months ago and found out that all those carbs made my BG go up. So I started LCHF and it went down right away. No meds. Good luck to you.

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I don't think you were too hasty . . . Neal Barnard makes tons of money saying he can cure diabetes, but we all know there is no cure, and we have no patience with people who pick our pockets selling 'cures'. He is an animal rights activist pure and simple. He is not interested in helping diabetics, apart from separating us from our money.



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Why is it considered healthier to not eat meat. This makes no sense at all to me.
I was a vegetarian because of the cruelty and inhumane practices in the meat industry to the poor animals. But now, since I have to do LCHF, I'm eating meat that is produced by happy cows, so to speak. Grass fed, free roaming, no hormones, etc. same with chickens. Meat that is more mass produced can be harmful for us, such as diseases, tainted meat, bacterias, etc.. We're always hearing about contaminated meat somewhere. Plus, I live in the country and love to see the free roaming cows, and feel bad, knowing that they are going to have short lives and be eaten.

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Plus, I live in the country and love to see the free roaming cows, and feel bad, knowing that they are going to have short lives and be eaten.
I live in the suburbs, and see happy cows. I think of it as supporting my local ranching community. And I also try to buy local free range.

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I'm not against the idea, but I am wondering how you get complete proteins on a vegan diet without things carby things like lentils, rice, beans, etc.? I'm guessing eggs are not vegan, as honey is not.

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