Effect of a 6-month vegan low-carbohydrate ('Eco-Atkins') diet on cardiovascular risk

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Effect of a 6-month vegan low-carbohydrate ('Eco-Atkins') diet on cardiovascular risk


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Old 05-02-2014, 13:38   #1
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Default Effect of a 6-month vegan low-carbohydrate ('Eco-Atkins') diet on cardiovascular risk

Effect of a 6-month vegan low-carbohydrate ('Eco-At... [BMJ Open. 2014] - PubMed - NCBI

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Participants were advised to consume either a low-carbohydrate vegan diet or a high-carbohydrate lacto-ovo vegetarian diet for 6 months after completing 1-month metabolic (all foods provided) versions of these diets. The prescribed macronutrient intakes for the low-carbohydrate and high-carbohydrate diets were: 26% and 58% of energy from carbohydrate, 31% and 16% from protein and 43% and 25% from fat, respectively.

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A self-selected low-carbohydrate vegan diet, containing increased protein and fat from gluten and soy products, nuts and vegetable oils, had lipid lowering advantages over a high-carbohydrate, low-fat weight loss diet, thus improving heart disease risk factors.

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Low carb is a bit of a misnomer for this study in my opinion. I base that on they were eating 5X the carbs a lot of us do.

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Why do most of these studies double the protein on the "low-carb" version? That's a confounder.

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Maybe they don't want the truth out about high fat. And this planted the seed that plant fat was better than lacto/ova fat sources, so we know animal fats have to be much worse, its already been proven (not meant literally, I know better)

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These studies tend to start with a conclusion already identified. The skill in the exercise is adjusting the study parameters to deliver that conclusion without being caught in the act. Who paid for the study?

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Sounds just like target shooting practice in the army, shoot and then draw circles around the entry holes. Always gives excellent results.

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Thanks for the post Kantim. I've been curious about working more veggies into my diet, and didn't know "eco-atkins" was something I could Google for recipes.

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Thanks for the post Kantim. I've been curious about working more veggies into my diet, and didn't know "eco-atkins" was something I could Google for recipes.
I bit of a propagandistic name, however. The author of "The Vegetarian Myth" laid out in great detail how massive monoculture agriculture to feed a plant-based diet has been far more harmful to the ecology than raising animals for food would have been. Among other things, the Great Dustbowl was caused directly by this.

Being "eco" in the US would have meant leaving the millions of acres of prairie in their healthy natural state and grazing many millions of meat animals on them. They would still be in their natural state unchanged and viable until today. Scraping them clean and growing massive amounts of grains has utterly destroyed the original environment, obliterated hundreds of species and depleted the soil of its fertility.

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I don't support vegan or even vegetarians diets, I don't think that they are healthier and they make a diabetic diet harder to do. But not everyone is convinced that meat or fat is healthy and I understand that, the war against them every day is brutal. As everyone is responsible for their own health, is good that there are alternatives for those that need them for some personal reason. A diabetic diet is something you need to be comfortable with since is something you will probably have to do for the rest of your life. So if you are going to do vegan diet. A low carb vegan diet that is higher in fat and protein is better than a high carb low fat vegetarian diet that is all that was compared in the study.

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I don't support vegan or even vegetarians diets, I don't think that they are healthier and they make a diabetic diet harder to do. But not everyone is convinced that meat or fat is healthy and I understand that, the war against them every day is brutal. As everyone is responsible for their own health, is good that there are alternatives for those that need them for some personal reason. A diabetic diet is something you need to be comfortable with since is something you will probably have to do for the rest of your life. So if you are going to do vegan diet. A low carb vegan diet that is higher in fat and protein is better than a high carb low fat vegetarian diet that is all that was compared in the study.
I don't know if that was in response to me or not, but I was only commenting on the inaccurate term "eco-Atkins" as a particular kind of propaganda which can mislead people, none of the other things you mentioned (at least not right now.) Monoculture is probably the least ecologically sound way of producing food.

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