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Old 05-24-2014, 14:31   #11
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ok so it makes me feel like the atkins is not the way to go. should i be reading the dietdoctor book instead and eat like that? i want to do good. ive lost 2 lbs in the last 2 days and my sugars have stayed in the 7's. not where i want them though, i would like lower.
my fasting this morning was 6.6 mmol/l.


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ok so it makes me feel like the atkins is not the way to go. should i be reading the dietdoctor book instead and eat like that? i want to do good. ive lost 2 lbs in the last 2 days and my sugars have stayed in the 7's. not where i want them though, i would like lower.
my fasting this morning was 6.6 mmol/l.
You dont mention whether or not you take medications, how old are you, do you do any physical activity etc. You can read on and on forever, but if you dont give some details about yourself then how are the experienced people here going to help you with their best advice. Its a two way street.


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You dont mention whether or not you take medications, how old are you, do you do any physical activity etc. You can read on and on forever, but if you dont give some details about yourself then how are the experienced people here going to help you with their best advice. Its a two way street.
Yes I Introduced myself in the intros forum. I didn't think I'd have to all the time. I'm 30... Diagnosed at 26. I take 2000mg of metformin a day in 2 divided doses. I take 45u of levemir at night and 40u in morning. I take humalog on carb counted doses. I also take candesartan for my kidneys 4mg. I'm 264 pounds today and 4 foot 11. I hardly exercise and I have my excuses for that that you all hear all the time like sore back...knees etc.

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Yes I Introduced myself in the intros forum. I didn't think I'd have to all the time. I'm 30... Diagnosed at 26. I take 2000mg of metformin a day in 2 divided doses. I take 45u of levemir at night and 40u in morning. I take humalog on carb counted doses. I also take candesartan for my kidneys 4mg. I'm 264 pounds today and 4 foot 11. I hardly exercise and I have my excuses for that that you all hear all the time like sore back...knees etc.
Sorry, but I looked at you public profile and there were no details, hence the post. Sore back and knees must be terrible, I just have back and hip problems, but not crippling. Fortunately exercise does not help all that much with weight loss, so you are not missing out there.

Through the Atkins/ LCHF MOE I dropped 88 lbs, but it took some very strong will power in the beginning. Later things became much easier as I adjusted to normal sized food portions, before this my portions were very liberal in size and that is an understatement.

Also the Atkins diet was too low on fat so that I was very hungry and often got cold hands and feet. After adding more fat these problems were resolved but you still must operate within a given calorie framework .Thats pretty much the whole story, if you stick to the rules you should lose quite a bit of weight. Maybe you have complicating factors or your medications intefere ? on this I cant advise I am not a doctor. All the best with your efforts and dont give up.

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no worries. As far as medication causing the weight gain, i failed to mention i am on like 6 different mood medications, some of which dont cause weight gain, some do. however, i did gain the weight off of a medication i took as a teenager/and right after pregnancy which is for my bipolar disorder and that made me go from 175 after pregnancy to 265 and also caused my diabetes that i was also predisposed to. my son is 9 now. ive been 265 for 4 years now, give or take 5 pounds. i went on weight watchers, not much happened. all because i was eating carbs still. i like the atkins diet as it gives me structure, which i very much so need. as for the cold hands/feet, if i get that, ill just add full fat mayo or butter more. even tho the weight loss may be slower than usual. how does this sound?

but i still dont understand something..they say that dr atkins died from eating these ways and that high fat isnt good for your arteries, like butter and whipping cream (liquid) which has 0.2 trans fat. whats up with that, is that true?

aand on a good note, my blood sugars have been in the 6mmol range all day so far.


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no worries. As far as medication causing the weight gain, i failed to mention i am on like 6 different mood medications, some of which dont cause weight gain, some do. however, i did gain the weight off of a medication i took as a teenager/and right after pregnancy which is for my bipolar disorder and that made me go from 175 after pregnancy to 265 and also caused my diabetes that i was also predisposed to. my son is 9 now. ive been 265 for 4 years now, give or take 5 pounds. i went on weight watchers, not much happened. all because i was eating carbs still. i like the atkins diet as it gives me structure, which i very much so need. as for the cold hands/feet, if i get that, ill just add full fat mayo or butter more. even tho the weight loss may be slower than usual. how does this sound?

but i still dont understand something..they say that dr atkins died from eating these ways and that high fat isnt good for your arteries, like butter and whipping cream (liquid) which has 0.2 trans fat. whats up with that, is that true?

aand on a good note, my blood sugars have been in the 6mmol range all day so far.
Well Dr Atkins fell on a snow covered sidewalk and cracked his head poor fellow. He had heart issues but died from his accident. The opposing camp the LFHC camp spread the story that he had died as a consequence of his own dietary MOE. I also have a history of heart problems[25 years] and I am not concerned with all the scare talk about the danger of fats. Rather the opposite, its with the LCHF MOE that I got better cardiac health markers ie higher HDL, lower triglycerides, lower blood pressure etc everything that the LFHC MOE did not achieve. I dont see how so many smart cardiologists etc can be so obtuse and not recognise the great benefits of the LCHF system, but they are.So my advice is dont be afraid of the fats. Also there is plenty of modern up to date articles showing that the old theories have been proven false. Again dont forget to work within certain calorific limits, ie for example, but not necessarily limited to, x calories of which 5 % are from carbohydrates 15% from proteins and 80% from fats. All this I am sure you know anyway.Best wishes for dropping the pounds.

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Dietdoctor.com is a website. Our favorite page on that site is Low-Carb, High Fat (LCHF) for Beginners, but it's all good!

Dr. Atkins' heart condition was genetic.

Here's another excellent article, from a different site:


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Dr. Atkins did indeed die from a fall. And just for the record, the opposing camp mentioned by Philip was none other than the notorious cure-diabetes-through-veganism shyster Neal Barnard and his PCRM stooges.




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phew! that makes me feel alot better. so far so good although today i felt a little weak and sweaty at the grocery store and i checked my sugar, it was 5.6mmol. then when igot home, i had a cup of broth that was not salt reduced. it was good after that. im on blood pressure pill (atacand/candesartan) originally for my blood pressure but now my bp is 100/60. i continue on it because of my protein im spilling out of my kidneys.

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ill just add full fat mayo or butter more. even tho the weight loss may be slower than usual. how does this sound?
I think your weight loss is slow enough already, so you should learn that eating more fats is NOT going to slow down the weight loss, KR.

Fats do not make us fat: CARBS make us fat!

Eating large amounts of fats will SPEED your weight loss just as long as you keep your carb consumption LOW.

I have just given you the key to losing the weight . . . STOP EATING CARBS and START EATING FATS. You don't have to take our word for it, but unless you actually TRY IT, you'll never know how easy it is to lose weight.




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