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Old 08-03-2014, 15:46   #1
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Hi all,

When I was diagnosed back in April of this year, I immediately called my old high school friend in Illinois, who suffered a massive heart attack 5 years ago at the age of 55 and wasn't expected to live, but survived with a heart that's barely making it. About 8 months ago he was diagnosed with diabetes, which at the time, didn't mean much to me, but of course now that I am, it certainly does. He's in Illinois and I'm in California. He's retired on a limited income and living in an apartment with his older sister.

I'm concerned about him because he tests once a day and his fbg is never lower than 150. He's on Metformin 500 twice a day and that's it. He has not changed his way of eating at all, even though I've shared on the phone much of what I've learned here. His toes are starting to go numb. When I told him I no longer eat bread, pasta, rice or potatoes, he said, "That's just about all we have in the house and we can't afford anything else". He mentioned it doesn't matter because I think he's just given up and is waiting to die. I know we're all responsible for our own life, but what do you guys think? Any ideas on how I might be able to motivate him into putting more effort into managing his diabetes better?

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Not an easy one. Why has he given up? And don't try to answer that one in a sentence.

Is he likely to look at a web site like Blood Sugar 101 or come visit us on the forum?

You've already identified the main issue. As long as he stays on a high carb diet, his only option is medication to try to bring those spikes down. But of course, since he's used to running at over 150, he doesn't perceive it as a spike.

Diet is the answer but while his and his sister's line is "that's all we can afford", they won't explore other avenues since clearly it's a waste of their time.. I've no idea on the shopping opportunities over your side of the pond, but I'm sure some of our other colonial members will be able to make a few suggestions - but again, until they make the effort....

Sorry, I fear I'd said nothing you haven't already thought of yourself.

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Before his heart attack, he lived alone and his evenings were spent in bars drinking and playing slot machines. He'd call me up most evenings drunk and angry at the world, and a few months before his heart attack I told him not to call me anymore, because the only time he did was when he was drunk. Since the heart attack he hasn't touched a drink, but he still has this attitude of just waiting around to die. He wasn't happy to be placed on a cardiac diet of low fat yada yada yada and now with the added burden of diabetes, he just hasn't decided to make any other diet changes.

I emailed him this group when I first found it, but he hasn't mentioned anything about it so I'm assuming he just ignored it.

For myself, I know I have many years ahead of me as long as I keep my BG numbers in control. I remember when I first came here all depressed and the like and you guys helped me understand that diabetes isn't a death sentence, but we can't just go on as before. My nightly meal was a baked potato slathered with sour cream and butter just before bed. I can't even imagine doing that now and what my numbers were upon doing that. So, I thank everyone here for your sharing your experiences and knowledge here.

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I have to agree with John, and since you added more information, it appears to me that he wasn't much interested in taking care of himself even before the heart attack. Not likely he's going to start any time soon, even though he has stopped drinking.

Whatever his psychological/psychiatric issues are, they apparently outweigh any importance he might place on controlling his physical conditions. And as we well know, that low-fat 'heart healthy' diet is not helping either his heart or his diabetes.



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It is sad, but it looks pretty clear that he is not willing to do anything more to take care of himself. After being forced into the "healthy heart" diet his head must be spinning to think of lc/hf, if he even is. Are you in contact with his sister? Can you get some of the info & links to her? Would she want to try and make some dietary changes around the home? It is pretty clear he isn't going to budge on his own.

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I would doubt you can do anything, especially because he will be convinced that fat is bad due to his heart. You could send him the info in an email or something or direct him here. Then it's up to him.

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LOL. I always tell my English colleague that the official name of our July 4 holiday is "independence from England day."

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LOL. I always tell my English colleague that the official name of our July 4 holiday is "independence from England day."
Now if you really want to hurt and insult me - you call me English - I was born in Scotland and describing me as 'English' is serious fighting talk where I come from

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Now if you really want to hurt and insult me - you call me English - I was born in Scotland and describing me as 'English' is serious fighting talk where I come from
Probably on par with someone from Europe calling me 'American' when I'm from Canada.
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He wasn't happy to be placed on a cardiac diet of low fat yada yada yada and now with the added burden of diabetes, he just hasn't decided to make any other diet changes.
There is an opportunity here to put him back on a high fat diet. Of course, his doctors are probably going to go nuts and this would be so counter intuitive.

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