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Old 02-04-2015, 18:18   #1
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I've been having the very devil of a time, trying to get a decent sleep, since being on LCHF. In fact, I have lapsed over the past couple of weeks, but I discovered that on the nights I indulge with a potato (small of course) with my evening meal, I also sleep really well.

Last night I got back on the LCHF wagon and I am back to sleeping very little, being restless and right now its 4.15 am where I am, and I have had about 1.5 hours. Potato at dinner = 7 hours. No potato = 3-5 hours.

There must be some foods which tend to create a degree of somnolence. Clearly potato is one. And just as clearly, I don't want to be getting back in the habit.

Anything else? I'm likely to drop off soon (so I'll be back later) because I resorted to taking a sedative but I HATE doing that with a passion. I'd rather do it with food.

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Sorry, while I am an early riser, I tend to get sleepy as soon as it gets dark.

What would a bite or very tiny portion of potato do to your BG? Would it be enough to relax you?

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Its the unnecessary rise in glucose and insulin that is making you sleepy. Here is a list of things you can try:

Supplements, Sleep

Sleep is very important, if you donít get restorative sleep all aspects of your health will suffer from it. We need to talk about what is restorative sleep. There are four stages of sleep, restorative sleep occurs during stage 3 and stage 4. If your brain is not getting to this stage it will affect your health, glucose control, food cravings, blood pressure, and mood, among other things. So how does one get to a stage 3 and 4 sleep cycle?

These are not in any particular order and I will talk about nonprescription supplements first.

Seriphos - Phosphatidyl Serine, is taken to control Cortisol right before you go to bed. If you are finding yourself becoming more and more energetic as the day goes along, and you donít get sleepy till very late at night you may have a Cortisol problem. This is also related to Adrenal Fatigue.

GABA, GABA reduces the effects of cortisol and adrenal hormones; it usually takes effect within 30-40 minutes after consuming. It will make you sleepy if taken in higher dosages.

KAVA, Kava reduces anxiety and provides mild muscle relaxation without reducing brain activity. If taken in high enough quantity it will promote sleep and pain relief.

Passion Flower, Passion Flower acts on the adrenal system as well. It is an anxiogenic and anticonvulsant. It is used during drug with drawls

Inositol, Inositol will not make you sleepy but it will help your brain to achieve stage 3 and 4 sleep cycle. Inositol also modulates glucose in your system and is being used to help treat women for PCOS.

Magnesium, Magnesium is also beneficial in helping to maintain a deeper sleep cycle, avoid magnesium oxides and seek out magnesium Glycinate.

5HTP, 5 HTP will be converted by your body into serotonin which then can be converted into melatonin. If you are on a SSRI you have to monitor closely the amount of 5 HTP you consume to avoid what is known as serotonin syndrome. Melatonin is needed for helping your body stay asleep.

Fish Oil, Fish Oil is calming on the brain if taken right before bed time and will help your brain maintain sleep.

L-Glycine, L-Glycine is an amino acid that provides calming of the brain it will help maintain sleep. It will also lower blood pressure over time.

L-Glutamine, L-Glutamine is an amino acid that can be converted to GABA by your body. I t will also provide building blocks for tissue repair while you sleep.

Folic Acid, Folic Acid reduces restless leg syndrome, calms the nerves, and helps to maintain sleep.

Prescriptions that will help with getting to sleep and maintaining sleep

Atarax, Hydroxyzine is a strong antihistamine, a non-addictive drug that will promote sleep.

Tizanidine, Tizanidine is a muscle relaxer which will promote sleep within 30 minutes and last for 30 minutes. Once you get past this 30 minute window the sleep effect of the drug wears off, so it is important to take 30 minutes before bed and be in bed when it affects you.

Gabapentin, Gabapentin is very effective in helping your brain reach stage 3 and stage 4 sleep cycle. You have to titrate upwards to achieve the proper dose for your particular body. A dose of 2400mg at night is not unheard of.

There are others that are more main stream sleep aids by prescription only. The ones listed above are rarely used for sleep disorders but are very effective in that regard.

The key to getting a good nightís sleep is determining what your problems are then deciding which of the above will help me with my problems.

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Thanks Nancy, interestingly, potato if small enough (I buy chats) doesnt raise my BGL much at all.

Marty: Funny you should mention adrenal fatigue, I was reading about it in the early hours. I'll take some time to absorb the supplement info, but appreciate and will see if I can include some in my med regime. I'm not on SSRIs, I prefer tricyclics but now cannot take them because I become tooooo sleepy even on the very lowest dose.

Today I had to call the ambulance... uncontrolled tachycardia which naturally had stopped by the time they got here, BP was still through the roof and pulse was around 120 (it was well over 200 before) and I am putting it down to that terrible night. I ended up getting only 3.5 hours after I posted :-/

Taking no risks tonight. I will have something to help me stay asleep at 11pm and not 4am. an appointment with doc very soon.

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A large helping of beef short ribs or a large ribeye steak. Works every time for me!

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Horrors! I think the doctor visit is a very good idea. Let us know what happens!

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That really sounds like adrenal fatigue. Which you would think would mean you were low in cortisol, but your cortisol is suppose to be highest in the morning and lowest at night. People with adrenal fatigue tend to build up cortisol all day long and are highest at night. If you are not sleeping your body will try to release even more cortisol and adrenalin hormones which may have triggered the tach for you.





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Thanks Nancy, interestingly, potato if small enough (I buy chats) doesnt raise my BGL much at all.

Marty: Funny you should mention adrenal fatigue, I was reading about it in the early hours. I'll take some time to absorb the supplement info, but appreciate and will see if I can include some in my med regime. I'm not on SSRIs, I prefer tricyclics but now cannot take them because I become tooooo sleepy even on the very lowest dose.

Today I had to call the ambulance... uncontrolled tachycardia which naturally had stopped by the time they got here, BP was still through the roof and pulse was around 120 (it was well over 200 before) and I am putting it down to that terrible night. I ended up getting only 3.5 hours after I posted :-/

Taking no risks tonight. I will have something to help me stay asleep at 11pm and not 4am. an appointment with doc very soon.

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OR... my electrolytes are out of balance. I'm on potassium sparing meds and am also supposed to take frusemide to offset the effects. Its a finely tuned balancing act. which I have not been paying attention to, lately, and have not had frusemide for days. Corrected that, this morning (i had another 2 tach episodes, one overnight and one earlier this morning... which reminded me to take the frusemide at 40mg not my usual every so often 20mg).

Cant get an earlier appointment with the cardiologist than June, and my GP is pretty useless for unusual stuff. If push comes to shove and I have any more of these, I'll go to hospital instead.

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A large helping of beef short ribs or a large ribeye steak. Works every time for me!
Chicken usually works for me but its been failing of late. Maybe not having enough.

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