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Old 04-29-2015, 17:13   #1
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I have major heart disease.

I've read that high cholesterol isn't directly related to how much you eat, but rather with how your body thinks it is needs to protect the body from inflammation.

I like bacon, but can easily eat a half pound of it.

Once my triglycerides were over 2000. But I think I was in major self digestion mode from extremely high bg numbers.

Last report was my triglycerides were 250. I don't know how to tell if these numbers are due to food intake or if my body is burning high amounts of body fat for energy.

Wisdom is welcome.

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John,

Picking on one food item doesn't tell you a lot. You should be eating other things at the same time and it's the overall picture you have to examine - not just pick on one thing.

For me, the rule of thumb is that I eat a sensible portion of the things on my plate and although I don't really count calories, it is interesting to find that at the end of the day, my calorie count comes out at around 2,200 - roughly where it should be. Over the day I am ready for my meals but never that hungry that the wife's arm is in danger of being gnawed off by me.

There are many calculators available on the web - here is one of the easier to follow ones - Calculate Your Ideal Nutrient Intake for Weight Loss or Maintenance . You might find it helpful in coming up with a breakdown that fits your approach.

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Picking on one food item doesn't tell you a lot. You should be eating other things at the same time and it's the overall picture you have to examine - not just pick on one thing.

For me, the rule of thumb is that I eat a sensible portion of the things on my plate and although I don't really count calories, it is interesting to find that at the end of the day, my calorie count comes out at around 2,200 - roughly where it should be. Over the day I am ready for my meals but never that hungry that the wife's arm is in danger of being gnawed off by me.

There are many calculators available on the web - here is one of the easier to follow ones - Calculate Your Ideal Nutrient Intake for Weight Loss or Maintenance . You might find it helpful in coming up with a breakdown that fits your approach.
I can see what you are saying here.

I wasn't really thinking in terms of calories. I was more worried about the "evils" of bacon, that are promoted by otherwise heart health conscious people.

I hear it here a lots, that fat is ok. I guess I'm just having a hard time accepting that.

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Honestly cured bacon is not evil - it is delicious. Have a look at that calculator and see what the results are based on your current carbohydrate intake compared to what it would look like when you cut your carbs back to half the current figure.

Then follow the approach for a couple of weeks - watching your insulin dose at the same time and see where it takes you.

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Last year in your intro thread http://www.diabetesforum.com/introdu...john-here.html you were given much information about LCHF and many of your questions about the so-called “dangers” of fats were addressed. Your last comment was.
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You’ve been gone quite a long time and you seem to still be questioning the eating of fats, thinking that eating fats is going to be detrimental to your heart.

This very thing has been discussed over and over again on this forum. There have been studies and papers on this subject for which the links have been posted. The bottom line, however, is proof in the doing. Many have responded to your stated fears by pointing out that when they ate LCHF – with all the fat that this woe entails – their CVD risks and actual issues improved.

I guess at some point you’re going to have to make a decision and if after all the evidence presented about fats and how they don’t really contribute to CVD you decide to at least give this WOE a try for a few months (at least), then the forum is willing to support your decision and will be happy to guide you along the way.

I hope you decide to take the plunge.
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There's no such thing as too much bacon, and those otherwise 'heart health conscious people' either don't know squat or they're lying through their teeth.

You need to stop stalling, John. Get to work eating to your meter, and get on with your life.



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I hope there is no "too much bacon" some mornings I 0 other morning 1/2 pound. (aint no 1/2 pound after it cooks)

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Last year in your intro thread http://www.diabetesforum.com/introdu...john-here.html you were given much information about LCHF and many of your questions about the so-called “dangers” of fats were addressed. Your last comment was.

You’ve been gone quite a long time and you seem to still be questioning the eating of fats, thinking that eating fats is going to be detrimental to your heart.

This very thing has been discussed over and over again on this forum. There have been studies and papers on this subject for which the links have been posted. The bottom line, however, is proof in the doing. Many have responded to your stated fears by pointing out that when they ate LCHF – with all the fat that this woe entails – their CVD risks and actual issues improved.

I guess at some point you’re going to have to make a decision and if after all the evidence presented about fats and how they don’t really contribute to CVD you decide to at least give this WOE a try for a few months (at least), then the forum is willing to support your decision and will be happy to guide you along the way.

I hope you decide to take the plunge.
Without doubt, this is my issue. It seems that you are tired of supporting people on the fence. Perhaps I can look forward to your help a little later on.

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It seems that you are tired of supporting people on the fence. .
Perhaps I am. I'll bow out of this thread now. I wish you success.

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John, I guarantee you that most of the answers and reassurance you seek can be found on hundreds of other threads, especially in the "introduce yourself" section and the links that have been provided to you.

You don't need it customized to you, honestly! This way of life is pretty similar for all of us. Get enough fat to feel satisfied and full. Moderate protein. As few carbs as your meter will allow.

You can do this. We are living, walking, breathing, *healthy* proof.
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