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Old 06-19-2015, 18:38   #1
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I have been told to stay away from high fat foods and was wondering what the forum has to say about high lipids with the LCHF diet.
I take a statin. My cholesterol is around normal now with my triglycerides between 400 and 1000. It's a heritatary problem that run in my father's side.
I'm hungry all the time and I hate that feeling.

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Many here are of the opinion that thigh triglycerides result from high carbohydrate intake, not dietary fat.

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My results eating this way are splendid...My HDL is 101 and Tri is less than half of that. And now I've been eating high fat for about 5 years.Carbs are what drives the cholesterol, not fat. I'd think even if it is a familial trait and if you adopt the LC/HF way of eating you'd be amazed at the results.

Oh, and by the way...fat is very satisfying so it will help. Another thing to pay attention to is that carbs call for more carbs and when you get fully on the diet, you'll again be amazed how much less you want to eat.

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Those telling you to stay away from fats have what reason for saying that? Is it based on opinion or fact? If they base it on fact, will they reference the source? I'd like to read about it.
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I have been told by doctors since the high triglycerides started in my early 20s to stay away from fat. I went to a mostly protein diet (chicken breasts were my main meal and sometimes hamburger Patties). I have known I would most likely end up diabetic since I was in school for Medical Technology. High triglycerides are a marker for diabetes (metabolic syndrome or syndrome X) and I have family history on both sides that are diabetic.
My worst medical conditions are auto immune problems, Crohn's disease, thyroid disease, and a broken back. Of course the diabetes and the NSAIDs have damaged my kidneys and I fight the neuropathy with neurontin.
I am in a wheel chair so I don't get enough exercise.
I'm trying very hard to get my diabetes under control. I have never had high sugars like this until I had all the steroids injections in my back at the end of last year. 3 different rounds. They messed everything up for me and didn't help my pain.

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Taken from the link you have posted here:
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High carbohydrate intake: When you eat foods with carbohydrates, the digestive system breaks the food down and extracts glucose. The glucose is then absorbed through the intestines into the bloodstream. As described above with poorly controlled diabetes, excess glucose can be used to make triglycerides. Food: Certain foods seem to affect triglyceride levels more than others. When you have diabetes, your body has less of a tolerance for these types of foods. These foods include simple sugars, refined processed grains

Low thyroid hormone levels: Thyroid disorders appear to have a higher prevalence in people with diabetes. The most common disorder is an underactive thyroid, or hypothyroidism. If you have both high triglyceride and cholesterol levels, it might be a sign of low thyroid hormone levels. Ask your doctor about ruling out this disorder. Treatment for hypothyroidism may help lower triglyceride levels.
These are the primary causes of high triglycerides, and if you undertake a low-carb/high-fat (natural saturated and unsaturated fats - no manmade fats or oils) way-of-eating, you will find both your blood sugar AND your lipids profile improved. This is borne out over and over on our forum by people who finally had to ignore doctors' erroneous advice, and find what actually does work. LCHF is what works, and it works extremely well when combined with this technique.

Since you have other autoimmune disorders, I suggest you be tested for GAD autoimmune antibodies as well as c-peptide. And if your doctor believes statins will lower triglyceride levels, he is sadly mistaken. On the whole, statins have no effect on triglycerides, as your own experience shows.




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Tricia - welcome to the forum

Re: "staying away from fats"
EVERYONE has been told this for the last 50-60 years. And as a whole, our society has gone low-fat. The problem is - it hasn't worked! People are more overweight than ever before. There is more heart disease than ever before. And diabetes is almost common and expected when it never was before.

So, this great "low-fat experiment" has been a disaster.

Current understanding based on real science (rather than the assumptions of the past) is showing that it is NOT fats that cause the health problems. The members of this forum represent a population that has come to find that eating a lot less carbohydrates and a lot more fats has actually improved health in many ways, besides being an excellent way to control blood sugars.

I can greatly sympathize with your situation. I am not in a wheelchair, but my back problems prevent my doing very much exercise. Even so, I can keep my BG low by keeping my carb consumption low and my fats high.

One more comment - about eating high protein. If you already have some kidney damage, isn't eating a lot of protein a bad thing? Here's where LCHF is excellent for the kidneys. You can maintain low BG while keeping protein consumption low - you just increase fats. (And your days of being hungry all the time will be a vague memory of the past.)

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Note in Shanny's reply "Natural fats." Of course you aren't using oleomargarine but I found that avoiding prepared foods will help keep the fats natural instead of constructed. Read the labels carefully. Also, browse this forum for some interesting and delicious recipes that are low carb, high "good" fat.

BTW you are still feeling the results of those steroids. Up your liquid intake.

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Now that I'm on this LCHF diet I was concerned on all this fat I'm eating mainly because my cholesterol is high

Last doctor appt
Cholesterol 224
Triglycerides 116
HDL. 46
LDL. 152

It went up from previous visit
Cholesterol 186

I had stopped taking my statins because I get muscle aches with them.

Doctor was concerned that my cholesterol was going up so he ask me to at least take 1/2 a pill. I was concerned also and started to take a full pill each day. Now I'm starting to get these muscle aches again.

By reading these posts am I to understand that it's the belief of this group that by following the LCHF diet, it will reduce my cholesterol without my taking these statins?

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By reading these posts am I to understand that it's the belief of this group that by following the LCHF diet, it will reduce my cholesterol without my taking these statins?
Everyone is different, but statistically .... probably.

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