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Old 10-15-2015, 10:40   #11
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Per the eat-to-your-meter recommendations, what number have you set as your upper limit?




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Yes 15g serves, yes over 100g of carb per day, and yes testing regularly. The numbers vary depending on which carbs I eat - I'm still learning what gives me a spike. For example after a rice noodle, pork and vegetable stir-fry I was 9.1 (163) at 1 hour and 9.8 (176) at 2 hours but after a toasted cheese sandwich (2 slices of low-GI white bread, cheese, butter) I was only 6.3 (113) and 5.9 (106). Hence I am testing regularly to learn what I can and can't eat.
Seems like your eating the SAD (stardard american diet), which fails for Diabetics. We eat to our meters and count carb on a one by one gram basis. If you eat a 15 g carb exchange then we count 15 carbs not one. Yeah I've know this is what the doctor's and dieticians has espoused for the last 40 years, but we are living proof that carbs are not necessary and deadly for people with diabetes.

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Sometimes it is the 'type' of fat that doesn't agree. I get very nauseous and a horrible headache from coconut oil. I don't do well with a lot of saturated either but I do great with avocado, moderate portions of nuts, reasonable amounts of macadamia or olive oils, olives and the fats that come with my P. I don't need to add a lot of extra fats to meals. Just normal amounts. I still eat 80% fat, 15P and 5 c but all in green veggies.

You can put sandwich toppings on a salad or piece of romaine. You could 'toast' your cheese sandwich on a piece of turkey or other meat. You can still have your stir fry but without the rice. You do not need the carbs, it's a recipe for disaster.

I do a version of Whole 30 but I mostly consider it unprocessed foods. I don't do well with dairy and I eliminate all starch and sugars. It could also be called a version of Atkins but no processed foods. As others have said no one diet works for every one but LCHF works the best for all diabetics. You jut have to find the foods that work for you.

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Wow, I decided to go 'cold turkey' when I started following the LCHF life on 5/1/15! I wanted to get through the transition as fast as possible and change my health to a better model as fast as possible. Over the first two weeks I targeted to eat less than 50g of carbs a day. Over the first two weeks I had some days I got a little 'flu' but nothing to bad. I also had a few afternoons where I got very sleepy, which I found out was due to low salt, as when you move to a true LCHF model, your body moves a lot of water out of your system, which in turn messes with your salt. I increased my salt intake, and that cured that problem.

I think getting on this life style is like quitting smoking....if you do not just stop doing the bad, it just keeps being a problem! Consider going LCHF....targeting 50 or less carbs per day....then in a week or two, things will settle for you.

As for butter, it is great mixed into a hot broth, and add a little salt also....!

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NB Whole 30 isn't specifically low carb but it cuts out sugar, grains, dairy, alcohol, soy and white potatoes which doesn't leave you with many sources of starch.
What makes you think that you need sources of starch?

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Natalie - I, too, had to slowly increase fats in order to reach my goals. I reduced carbs down to 30g a day right from the start. The carb-withdrawal for me was only a few days, thankfully. But it took over a year to increase fats to where the diet was most effective, and a couple years to be willing to eat some fatty things like chicken skins, or the fat on a steak. A change in diet does take some time to get used to. You can slowly reduce carbs, but know that this will prolong the transition and accompanying ill feeling until you get the total per day under 50g.

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Shanny: I aim for under 7.8 mmol/L (140)

Roxanne0312: I thought I was eating a lot less carbs than the SAD diet. My diabetes educator (Australia) told me to eat up to 60g of carb in a meal, I'm eating half that. And testing to see if it's ok. Some things are, some aren't. So isn't that eating to my meter? Are you saying I should ignore my meter and avoid carbs regardless of what my meter says?

Kristin251: I hate coconut oil! It's such a craze at the moment. I think I actually might be intolerant to coconut. But I eat just about any other fat. Using lettuce instead of bread is good - one favourite is "fajitas" with lettuce instead of tortillas. But I love bread too, and lots of other processed frankenfoods. It's hard to give up.

div2live: I think you're probably right about going cold turkey. But I've been trying and failing to modify my diet for 20 years. I try making baby steps, I try making big changes, like many dieters I've tried everything. But we have an advertisement here about giving up smoking that is something like "each attempt is one step closer to success" so I keep on trying. I do laugh at the idea of increasing my salt though - I eat so much already!

RCG: I don't think I need starch. I was just saying that Whole30 doesn't call itself low carb, but it is really because it cuts out most starch.

VeeJay: Thanks for the encouragement. I think I actually already eat quite a lot of fat, I should do some tracking while I not on a low-calorie diet and I might be surprised at my percentages! I've always loved chicken skin etc and only avoid fat when on a low calorie diet because it is so calorie-dense. And before everyone jumps on me, I'm not on a low calorie diet right now! I'm talking about the past.

Thanks for all the responses everyone! I appreciate it.

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Thirty grams per meal is way too much.

Fifty per day is the place to start.

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I know I am intolerant to coco oil or anything coco. too bad because I like it. Who doesn't lov3 bread and Franken food? But I do love my real food too. Our taste buds change. I love it all so I stick to the good stuff. I love good BS best and the way I feel with it. I have to be 20 c or less a day even on insulin so what does that say?

Try Myfitnesspal.com and track for a few days. I bet you will be surprised! I find the type of fat makes a big difference for me. Some great, some not so great. Avocado and mayo are great. Fat in my fish too. Bacon grease and cheese not so much. Just pay attention to your body.

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Natalie.....I too have tried for years to diet, all ending in failure. What you have to understand is that changing what you eat vs. reducing caloric content or reducing volume is not a DIET! All you are doing is dropping carbs for fat!

So no more potatoes, but you eat more creamy cheesy sauces.
You eat no more crackers or chips, but you eat more salty fried pork rinds drenched in Salsa.
Stop eating candy and baked sugary snacks and eat Walnuts and Pecans lightly roasted. Etc., etc. ...

you do not diet, if you are hungry eat! Eat all you want...what you will find is that you will lose your cravings for sweets, starches, bread, etc. You will eat less, you will feel full and food will actually taste much better.....

Stop thinking diet and start thinking change what I eat...but eat all you want...!

Check out our recipe section and you will be amazed at the options we have come up with....! You can do this.....

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