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Old 10-15-2015, 04:07   #1
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All the recommendations on this site are for LCHF eating, but too much fat always makes me feel really nauseated. When I tried doing "Whole 30" (gave up after 8 days due to carb flu and cravings) they say to have a thumb size portion of fat with every meal, and that made me feel really sick. I included butter, olive oil, bacon, other fatty bits of meat. Is it something you get used to? Does that feeling of having a stomach full of grease stop happening?

NB Whole 30 isn't specifically low carb but it cuts out sugar, grains, dairy, alcohol, soy and white potatoes which doesn't leave you with many sources of starch.

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"Carb flu" can take a couple of weeks to subside. Hot broth and lots of snacks, such as cheese, nuts and deli meats, can help you through.

As for the problems with fat -- if you're eating breads, noodles, rice and such, there may be something else going on. I ran into something similar.

Before my diagnosis, a lot of my beloved fatty foods started to give me all kinds of distress, so I started to give stuff up. One such food was chorizo (a Mexican sausage).

A few months after I started on LCHF, we went to a Mexican place where the only thing I could eat was a chorizo omelet (no rice or beans). I was hungry, we were rushed, and the only other food sources around had absolutely nothing I could eat.

So, with great trepidation, I got the omelet. And felt absolutely fine! My meter liked it, too.

After a few more experiments in trial-and-terror, I figured out that it was the combination of carbs with fatty foods that got me -- not the fats themselves.

Might be worth some experimenting of your own.

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My experience bears out what Shalynne says - fats are fine in the absence of carbs, but taken with carbs they can cause a lot of misery.

As for the Whole30 plan . . . is this something you can sustain indefinitely? In order to control your high blood sugar for the rest of your life, you need something more than a 'cleanse'. Study up on the basic LCHF way-of-eating, and use it along with eat-to-your-meter. This will provide you with meals & menus tailored to your own tolerances and preferences, and a blueprint you can follow forever.




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All the recommendations on this site are for LCHF eating, but too much fat always makes me feel really nauseated. When I tried doing "Whole 30" (gave up after 8 days due to carb flu and cravings) they say to have a thumb size portion of fat with every meal, and that made me feel really sick. I included butter, olive oil, bacon, other fatty bits of meat. Is it something you get used to? Does that feeling of having a stomach full of grease stop happening?

NB Whole 30 isn't specifically low carb but it cuts out sugar, grains, dairy, alcohol, soy and white potatoes which doesn't leave you with many sources of starch.
Yes, it is most likely something you get used to. It was in my case. I have never believed in making sudden changes. Don't do any "diet". Just change your WOE slowly over time. Gradually remove most carbs and excess protein. You probably only need something like 40-60g of protein per day depending on size and activity level. If you feel hungry, replace what you cut with good fats. The ones you mentioned are fine.

No matter how good a way of eating is, if it is different from what you've been doing, your body needs time to adjust. Your gall bladder may need to come back "on-line". Your entire digestive system will need to learn to provide a different mix of enzymes to the small intestine to best process what you are putting in. This may take time.

Eventually, you will find that the "queasy" feeling was actually extreme satiety. You just weren't accustomed to it. Once you get used to it, you realize that all that fat gives extreme satisfaction and the gnawing, annoying hunger of high-carb eating becomes a thing of the past.

But, if this diet you speak of is both high (i.e., "normal") carb and high-fat, that's a big mistake and there could be many other issues going on here. The fat you add should ONLY be replacing carbs (FIRST) and excess protein in your diet, not eating more.

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Thanks for the replies. I just realised I said I was eating butter but that obviously wasn't the case with no dairy! I don't think Whole30 is sustainable it was just something I tried as a kick start (without success). I've tried many things to lose weight over the years!

Maybe if I increase fats gradually it will be better as smorgan suggests. At present, the idea of eating a teaspoon of butter by itself - as someone delighted over on another thread - really turns my stomach! I've never been a "low-fat" person, nor a carb addict (compared to my husband, for instance!) but these things are relative and compared to you guys I'm still very high carb (about 150gms per day) and medium fat. When I cut right down on carbs I get very unpleasant to live with, both from the outside and from the inside of my head. Miserable and cranky. Still trying to work out how to manage the transition without my husband leaving me!

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I'm in a "mixed marriage," myself. I (eventually, slowly) learned to tell my husband, flat out, what I was going to do, and what the fallout would be.

Fortunately, when it comes to "carb flu," we're only talking a couple of weeks, give or take. Husband can be asked to stand ready with hot broth and appropriate, low-carb snacks.

We're dealing with life-threatening issues here -- plus a world (including husbands and others near-and-dear) who cannot possibly understand. Here's where our needs must come first.

Over time, I've found that frank talk, without going into too much obsessive detail, is the best course. This is yet another trial-and-terror thing. We must each learn what works with our own families and social circles.

As for Whole30 ... well many of us start out with a specific program ... for starters. For some, it's South Beach, for others, Atkins. From what I've seen, most of us cannot stick with any one book or program. Eventually, we must each develop our own. Eat-to-your-meter (as Shanny recommends) is the way to find our best path.

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And as Salim says, the fats are used to REPLACE carbs. I think you'll discover that the crankiness is less likely when the carbs are gone - replaced by fats.

And eating butter - in the event that you decide to dump Whole30 - is certainly not the only way to add fats to your meals. Foods like avocado, macadamia nuts, eggs, olives, cream, sour cream & real cheeses (again if dumping Whole30) will make your fats intake a lot more pleasant. This isn't a case of a greasy mass lying dead in your stomach. It's fuel for energy that your body will use when you get it off the carbs/glucose roller coaster. It's even possible that the thought of that stomach full of grease is causing a lot of the queasiness.




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Sorry for any confusion - I am not currently doing Whole30, I only managed eight days some time ago. Currently just reducing carbs to 1-2 "serves" per meal/snack and testing.

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Does 'serves' refer to a 15-gram serving of carbs, making your two portions per meal or snack run over 100g per day? And when you test, are you doing it according to eat-to-your-meter (at the one-hour interval after first bite, and again at the two-hour interval) and what are the numbers those tests reveal?




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Yes 15g serves, yes over 100g of carb per day, and yes testing regularly. The numbers vary depending on which carbs I eat - I'm still learning what gives me a spike. For example after a rice noodle, pork and vegetable stir-fry I was 9.1 (163) at 1 hour and 9.8 (176) at 2 hours but after a toasted cheese sandwich (2 slices of low-GI white bread, cheese, butter) I was only 6.3 (113) and 5.9 (106). Hence I am testing regularly to learn what I can and can't eat.

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