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Old 03-02-2016, 16:28   #11
 
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Congrats on the weight loss! Your blood sugar goal targets of lower than 120 and lower than 140 sound really good at this point, in my opinion. If eating a certain level of carbs keeps you at your preferred blood sugar target, I would definitely stay with it.

I would also just keep in mind, that at some point in the future if you wanted to see your levels go down even further, you would want to reduce carbs further to see what the effect is. For instance, my post prandial numbers were always around 140-150 and I wanted them a bit lower over time, so I reduced my carbs a bit more than I already had, to get them down to 100-110 pp. Just something to keep in mind
With diet and exercise my levels have been steadily dropping. There was a bit of a hiccup when my meds were reduced but it has resumed it's downward course. My ultimate goal is to get it under 100 for fasting and pre-meal with PP no higher than 120. I was there before meds were reduced. Now I am working to reduce them yet again. Exercise does not appear to be a huge factor for many here, for me I have noticed a significant difference between days I exercise daily and days I cannot. The difference was around 20-30 points. To me that is a lot. So I will continue to make that a significant part of my diabetes care.

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With diet and exercise my levels have been steadily dropping. . . .
Sound like you are on the right track.

It seems to me that long term sustainability of what works for you is the goal. Too many of us become complacent after we reach those initial goals and end up returning to old habits.

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In April of last year I found this website, as a type 2 for over 9 years I got to a point where my metformin and slow acting insulin was not keeping my in safe levels with my BS. My A1c had been as high as 7.9 late 2014! So I knew I had to change something. My doctor suggested more drugs and increasing insulin, I did not want to add any new drugs, but I did slowly increase my daily injection of insulin...eventually getting up to 126u, which is a bunch! And still my A1c only came down to 7.3!

So after studying this website, doing my own research, and reading the book Blood Sugar 101 (also available on a website by the same name), I decided to try LCHF lifestyle. I began on 5/1/15 and by July my A1c was down to 5.8! I had lost 35lbs and all my blood work was spot on, not to mention my improved blood pressure (due to weight loss) at 125/80!

As of last month I had lost 50lbs, without any exercise! my A1c was up a bit at 6.2 (still good) and my blood pressure was 120/80, boy do I love this life style, and my Cholesterol levels have continually improved.

It really is not a diet to me, it is eat all I am hungry for, just eat nothing with any form of sugar, no grains, no root crops. I seldom have more than 50 carbs a day and I eat lots of fats, meats, Heavy Cream, Oils, lots of Veggies, etc. etc. I am never hungry, I lost all my food cravings after a few weeks on LCHF.

Understand, you have to read and gain the knowledge of the LCHF life. Those that make the mistake of just eating low carb and not substituting the lack of carbs with fats, is putting their long-term health at risk. The body will find something to make energy, carbs, fats, and then goes for protein, and if you have limited your carbs and your fats, you body can start using your muscle fibers for energy, and that is bad, as many times it is your heart muscle that is first to be harmed! So do it right or don't do it at all....! Again, gain the knowledge to understand, then you know what is safe and what is not!

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In April of last year I found this website, as a type 2 for over 9 years I got to a point where my metformin and slow acting insulin was not keeping my in safe levels with my BS. My A1c had been as high as 7.9 late 2014! So I knew I had to change something. My doctor suggested more drugs and increasing insulin, I did not want to add any new drugs, but I did slowly increase my daily injection of insulin...eventually getting up to 126u, which is a bunch! And still my A1c only came down to 7.3!

So after studying this website, doing my own research, and reading the book Blood Sugar 101 (also available on a website by the same name), I decided to try LCHF lifestyle. I began on 5/1/15 and by July my A1c was down to 5.8! I had lost 35lbs and all my blood work was spot on, not to mention my improved blood pressure (due to weight loss) at 125/80!

As of last month I had lost 50lbs, without any exercise! my A1c was up a bit at 6.2 (still good) and my blood pressure was 120/80, boy do I love this life style, and my Cholesterol levels have continually improved.

It really is not a diet to me, it is eat all I am hungry for, just eat nothing with any form of sugar, no grains, no root crops. I seldom have more than 50 carbs a day and I eat lots of fats, meats, Heavy Cream, Oils, lots of Veggies, etc. etc. I am never hungry, I lost all my food cravings after a few weeks on LCHF.

Understand, you have to read and gain the knowledge of the LCHF life. Those that make the mistake of just eating low carb and not substituting the lack of carbs with fats, is putting their long-term health at risk. The body will find something to make energy, carbs, fats, and then goes for protein, and if you have limited your carbs and your fats, you body can start using your muscle fibers for energy, and that is bad, as many times it is your heart muscle that is first to be harmed! So do it right or don't do it at all....! Again, gain the knowledge to understand, then you know what is safe and what is not!
I am glad it is working for you. However, I am not much caring for what I have read on the diet. Yes, even sites that promote this diet.

I followed a link that was pro LCHF. I was not impressed with the doctor at all. His idea of healthy BEFORE switching to LCHF was atrocious and he thought it was standard healthy fare! I have to say, I was shocked at his complete ignorance about any nutritional standards. He thought it a prime example of what was wrong with the current nutritional standards except it didn't even follow ANY standard of nutrition I have ever seen or heard of.

Another person presented a Youtube doctor as a basis for information and backing for this LCHF diet. Not impressed with that. I am sorry, I cannot take Youtube doctors seriously. Where are their credentials? What do they have to back their claims? What long term studies have been done? Someone even went so far as to say humans have no need for ANY carbs. Where is the evidence to back up this assertion? Why was this person NOT required to post links and evidence to back such an out there claim?

Then I see on here people getting jumped for saying a slice of bread isn't so bad and not showing proof of this in the post. Or another thread being closed after only a few response. The OP offense? Wanting a breakfast with waffles. Now do I consider that healthy? Of course not. Yet is it really cause for closing the thread? I mean, I have say, I feel fasting, LCHF diets, advocating no exercise(yes there ARE many studies backing exercise as helpful with all kinds of physical ailments including diabetes). Why are some required to post evidence to support their claims and yet others, primarily those in support of LCHF not required to do the same?

Unasked for and without knowing me, my health, my lifestyle, my dietary needs, my medical history, or really anything about me beyond the fact I have type 2 diabetes, tell me I should cut out all my beans and lentils. According to this particular poster they are unhealthy for me. Now lets be honest here. Forget the other issues LCHF can have even when done correctly, this diet can land you in the hospital if NOT done correctly. So had I simply taken the offered advice of this individual I could be in serious trouble. Yet, no one said anything negative about the comment. In my opinion that is extraordinarily dangerous.

It is one thing to say this is what I am doing and is working well for me. It is an entirely different thing to tell someone what to do. In particular, someone, in reality, you know nothing about.

In fact, this instruction and pressure to conform to the LCHF diet proliferates here. The reason I felt the need to even ask if this group was solely for those who were following this diet.

Having seen the reaction to others who commented that carbs were not bad, I wasn't sure if I would even be welcome as I have absolutely no intention of switching to this particular diet. Why should I? What I am doing is working phenomenally for me.

People post how LCHF has helped them lose weight. The standard Dr., dietitian, diabetic educator, Health and Wellness instructor approved diet has done that for me. People post how LCHF has helped them stabilize their blood sugar levels. The standard approved diet has done that for me as well. People post how they have been able to reduce their diabetes medication due to LCHF. Well, I can say the same for the standard approved diet. In 5 weeks my meds were reduced 25%. My doctor is commenting about reducing my meds even further in 3-6 months and then added possibly sooner. Might I add, I have seen these drastic improvements in less than 4 weeks since diagnoses?

I am glad people are finding success with whatever diet they feel is appropriate for them. However, mine is working just as well for me. Yet, only a few have been positive about it. The rest appear to want me to change my diet despite my success with it. How much sense does THAT make? Would anyone here voluntarily change THEIR diets if it is working for them? Why would ANYONE, much less a stranger, think I should do so? and yet that is exactly the response I have been getting.

I don't know if this post will get me reprimanded or perhaps even removed from this group. To be honest, I don't have high hopes it won't draw some seriously negative comments or cause me to be removed. I suppose I will find out soon enough.

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I think that's fantastic that what you're doing is working for you, and by all means, I am very supportive of anyone who finds what exactly "fits" for them, as far as blood sugar management. I have tried various forms of diet and ways of eating, and I personally find that lchf works for me -- but that's just me.

My only suggestion is to just keep in mind that if one day you find your blood sugar control out of your preferred range or above what would be considered an optimal range, to perhaps try a few dietary adjustments.

After all, as I mentioned earlier, I am of the firm belief that not everything works for everyone, and you have to really do (follow) what you believe is the best decision for you, both in terms of diabetes and overall health. I wish you and everyone the best of continued health and blood sugar control

(I know this isn't directed at me in-particular, I just wanted to comment on it though)

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I think that's fantastic that what you're doing is working for you, and by all means, I am very supportive of anyone who finds what exactly "fits" for them, as far as blood sugar management. I have tried various forms of diet and ways of eating, and I personally find that lchf works for me -- but that's just me.

My only suggestion is to just keep in mind that if one day you find your blood sugar control out of your preferred range or above what would be considered an optimal range, to perhaps try a few dietary adjustments.

After all, as I mentioned earlier, I am of the firm belief that not everything works for everyone, and you have to really do (follow) what you believe is the best decision for you, both in terms of diabetes and overall health. I wish you and everyone the best of continued health and blood sugar control

(I know this isn't directed at me in-particular, I just wanted to comment on it though)
Thank you. I appreciate your post. THIS advice is what I came looking for when I searched for online diabetic forums. Information and help. It is good to know things are constantly changing. I know the body is and if I sat and thought about it, it should be a no duh moment. But as much as my mind is full of right now, it isn't something I had considered until you mentioned it. I may never have considered it. A good reminder not to become complacent regardless of your chosen diet.

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There are definitely different "camps", and even the so-called experts on diabetes management can sit at opposite sides of the issues.

A Forum is a place to discuss those differences and gain knowledge to help us as individuals.

Group think is not generally healthy; if there was only one viewpoint or one thing that worked, there wouldn't be much need for discussion (a forum)

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There are definitely different "camps", and even the so-called experts on diabetes management can sit at opposite sides of the issues.

A Forum is a place to discuss those differences and gain knowledge to help us as individuals.

Group think is not generally healthy; if there was only one viewpoint or one thing that worked, there wouldn't be much need for discussion (a forum)
I can't agree with you more. Unfortunately, that isn't quite what I am finding here. I find the information to be primarily LCHF. Anything else appears to be actively discouraged, even severely frowned upon by the majority of posts. Discuss things by all means. I WANT to hear all sides of things. That is a huge reason I am on here. Refusing to accept another view on things? And that is what I have run into. Again, the reason for this thread to begin with. So NOT helpful.

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When I had my first child, I knew very little about raising kids and EVERYONE had a different opinion as to how I should go about doing things. Both sets of grandparents had opinions, along with complete strangers offering their advice. Heck, not even doctors could keep their recommendations in line with each other.

During the years that I raised four children, the guidelines changed so many times it was crazy.

Here is what I discovered. In the end, it was my decision to make based on all of the information. I was bound to make mistakes. We all do, but I learned and moved forward.

At the risk of making a long story even longer, my journey with diabetes has been much the same.

In the end, we have to do what we feel works best for us.

Over time we may adjust our thoughts, based on our personal results.

Why?

Because when it comes down to it, only one thing matters and that is if were are keeping our diabetes under control so that we can live a long healthy life.

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I think this thread reflects the tone of this forum. http://www.diabetesforum.com/introdu...eet-you-4.html

A few excerpts. Excellent examples in my opinion.

"The shame of this diabetes debacle is that the medical community and the ADA/CDA do not tell patients what works, so they try to control their high blood sugar by eating the way their doctors suggest, and it doesn't work." Except that it does work for some of us. LCHF should be an option not a must or you are doing it wrong. Nothing is one size fits all.

"So if they have the good fortune to arrive here, it behooves us to quickly let them know that there is a method that works, even though their doctors don't accept it. And that method is eat-to-your-meter first, and then LCHF."

"If this becomes a site that promotes low fat, high carb, then I will be gone and not sorry to do so. I had hoped that those that complained about some of the bullying had really analyzed what they said before they complained so loudly and often as they have done more to harm to the site than people that have been helped will ever do when this site becomes another ADA pandering site or a dietitian promoted site that are shills of Big Food and Big Pharma."

"doesn't sound like a anti-LCHF post to me." Apparently anti standard diabetic diet is okay but anti LCHF is not.

"but it is not an out and out endorsement and leaves the door open for other types of food plans and there are some willing to promote them when they know the way is clear to do so. Plus my post is also against the biggest complainers who are not interested in learning about LCHF."

These posters are obviously seeing exactly what I am seeing. Difference is, they approve of it. Me? I do not run the forum. If that is what this place is for, support of LCHF diabetics, then that is fine and I will move on, no harm done. Although if that IS the case I do think it should be made plainer at the outset.

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