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Old 05-08-2016, 04:52   #11
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My previous LCHF attempts I never counted calories. I never lost any real weight either. At first you lose water and glycogen from your liver and muscles (I'm feeling that now in my legs). I don't count this as weight loss. When I did actually see how many cals I was eating I was shocked, even more so when you actually weigh your food instead of eyeballing it. Calories still matter. Go over what you need & you can gain weight on low carb. Going under is scarier. If your body gets used to eating only 1300 cals then you're going to have big problems when you go over that level. This sums up what I've done to myself through yo yo dieting. I've just reduced the number of calories I can comfortably eat and not gain weight. My maintenance level has gone down every time I tried a new plan. I didn't realise this so each time I'd abandon the diet and return to my usual WoE I'd gain even more weight.

I would advise you find out your maintenance calorie level and stick to it, use food scale if you have to. If you want to go below that to a weight loss level make sure it's going to be a slow pace of loss. Also ask yourself if you are prepared for that level to become your new maintenance level because if not, don't do it.
Not sure what you mean by maintenance calorie level. There is a certain amount of protein (amino acids) that is essential, required, to maintain cells and build muscle. Fatty acids are also essential. Carbohydrates are not so much. So calorie source is much more important than calorie number.

As your incoming sources of calories change, so does your metabolism. The amount of calories needed to convert and use those calories changes as well. You could lose or gain weight on different diets of the same calorie content, depending on how many calories are required to process the sources. A keto diet puts you in a higher calorie burning state than say the Standard American Diet. Fats may have a higher calorie value, but they also cause more calories to be burned to convert it to a usable fuel, and the process to use that fuel also increases calories burned. I once lost 10 lbs by picking up fats in my diet. My calories went from 3300 a day to 4100 a day during that time with no change in physical activity.

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So you're saying it's not the total calories but how they are made up? If I have calculated that I can only eat 1450 cals to maintain my weight you are saying I could eat 1800 and not gain weight if my diet was keto for example? I'm not sure I believe that. I think I'm still a believer that the total number matters. Some guy ate nothing but potatoes and still maintained his weight because he didn't exceed his caloric maintenance level. But I have a very basic understanding and I'm keen to learn if I'm wrong. I've eaten VLC/ keto before and didn't lose much at all. I put that down to the fact that I was still eating more than I needed. There was no calorie deficit. There were energy benefits, reduced hunger etc but no weight loss.

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I believe that if mass in is greater than mass out, that causes weight gain, and if mass in is less than mass out, that causes weight loss. You can weigh the mass in probably to a greater accuracy. Mass out would be harder to determine because it would be difficult to measure some of the solids and liquids lost, not to mention gaseous vapors.

The Eating Academy is a good place to read about a lot of things.

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Thanks for the link.. I will check it out. I find it all pretty interesting.

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