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Old 06-09-2016, 00:57   #1
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I don't want to be intrusive but I am wondering how much weight people have lost doing LCHF and how close to goal weight they have come. I lost 120 lbs on Atkins about 10 years ago over a 2 year period but fell off the wagon and gained most of it back. This time around I am struggling to lose weight even though I am keeping it at 20 gr carb or less, moderate protein and high fat. I am also keeping my calorie amounts reasonable at less than 2000 per day with most days being in the 1400-1600 range. In 5 weeks I have only lost 4-5 pounds which is probably all water weight :-( The good news is that even though my morning fasting numbers are still a bit high (7-8), the rest have come down into the normal range (5-6.5)

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I began following LCHF on 5/1/15. My A1c was at 7.9! That was the first time in over 9 years my A1c was over 6 (except when I was diagnosed at 11.0), so it scared me into action. My goal was "Get control of my diabetes, not weight loss, although I weighed 320lbs. at 6'2", I was focused on my A1c!

To my surprise as I got into LCHF I noticed my weight was dropping, and dropping fast. I tried to stay under 50 carbs per day, that was my only goal except eating more fat. After a few weeks I had a spell where I got dizzy and almost passed out. Further research and talking with others on the forum said eat more salt as you are losing lots of water and electrolytes....also keep your fat intake up. I did both of these and my dizziness and weakness went away, right away.

In my July doctor appointment I weighed in at 270lbs. down 45lbs. my A1c hit 5.8, my blood pressure dropped from 135/90 to 120/80, and my cholesterol was on target! My waste had dropped from 52" to 48" all in less than 90 days. Since then my weight has dropped another 5lbs. and am now an easy 46" waste! (everyone told me weight loss would slow down), and my A1c was up to 6.2 back in April. But all other health indicators have continue to be wonderfully perfect!

I never counted calories only watched my carbs and fat intake, my goal was never weight loss, just taking control of a disease that will kill me in a painfully slow way!

That I have accomplished....and the weight loss will continue slowly as I increase my activity levels...not cut back on caloric intake! For me cutting back is a trap, because I cannot radically reduce food intake to lose weight, because I cannot eat like that for the rest of my life! But, I can eat LCHF and increase my activities for the rest of my life, for me, that is sustainable...not starving myself!

Many told me to not watch my weight as much as watch my 'inches' drop! That was and is good advise! Weight can be very misleading do to water retention, scale variability, etc. etc. but the tape does not lie!

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I went on the LCHF regimen on 04/04/16. I was 275 pounds , my waist was 44 and my blood glucose was 396

I have been on it for almost 10 weeks (66 days) and I am now 240 pounds, my waist is a loose 40 and my blood glucose is 86

I do not eat any 'known' carbs. Obviously there are carbs in vegetables and in nuts and stuff but I only eat fats (good fats), protein and vegetables and nuts. No cheating, no bad meals... I have been perfect so far. I also got dizzy and needed to add salt.

I walk a lot also - I usually get over 10,000 steps a day.

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hftmrock...wow you are doing very well on the LCHF regime! Congratulations keep it going, but one question...when you use the term "good fats"....exactly what is a good fat, in LCHF eating all sources of fat is good fat, avocados, Heavy Whipping Cream, Bacon, Eggs, etc. etc. I have heard people talk about the myth of good carbs vs. bad carbs but that is not true also, no such thing as a good carb for diabetic.

As you must have read on the website www.bloodsugar101.com replacing the lack or carbs with fat, is critical in avoiding the body from using Protein for energy, this protein will be your muscle fibers...so get plenty of fat or over the long term you could have some serious problems due to loss of muscles within you body including your heart...! It can happen..

It is very difficult to get enough fat from veggies and with nuts, due to high carb content limiting you to almonds, pecans, walnuts, and macadamias, and even those must be limited do to carbs.....

Or I am missing something?


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Well, trans fats aren't exactly good fats, but we steer so clear of those in favor of healthy natural (good) fats that we can forget

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moon, I have listened to that "transfat" good fat vs. bad fat all my life and only recently am finding out that, that too may be a wrong assumption we all have learned over the years. One example below, but many others are out their saying all fat is good fat....of course it all has to be part of a balanced diet.

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You may disagree, but I think you will agree that the jury is still out.....!

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Apparently my body didn't get the memo on LCHF weight loss. With about 60 lbs to lose I was eating under 20 net carbs per day for a year with the standard high fat, don't count calories...lost 10 lbs in a few months and then nothing. Everyone looked at my food charts and couldn't believe I wasn't losing (including my doc). For me, I have to count the calories to lose so I'm LCHF, under 20 net carbs per day, low-moderate protein, and the rest fat but a maximum of 1300 calories a day.. most days closer to 1100. I've lost 14 pounds in 2 months and I'm almost never hungry. Note that I do not exercise, that would probably help too.

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div2live - with respect, I can't listen to an hour youtube, but what I saw in skimming the first few min was not an endorsement of trans fats at all, rather the opposite. Can you capsulize his argument in favor of trans fats (it would shock me!) - or point me to something/anything online that supports such a position?

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Apparently my body didn't get the memo on LCHF weight loss.
I don't think you're alone with this. You might want to do a forum search for "Intermittent Fasting" and "Fat Fast" - a couple of ways some of the members here have approached this challenge.

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Wink, just for grins and giggles, have you thought about increasing calories (from fats). It may sound strange, but I had lost weight after starting LCHF and then gained back 10 lbs and could not loose it. I thought I was needing to cut calories, I was eating 3300 kcal/day (started weighing every individual ingredient of what I ate). I decided to first increase fat in my diet before reducing protein, my calorie count went to 4100 kcal/day. I started loosing weight before cutting protein and the only thing that changed was adding fats.

I wasn't anywhere near on the verge of a starvation diet at 3300 kcal, but if eating very low calorie, one can actually slow down their metabolism with calorie restrictions and not achieve weight loss they thought they would get.

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