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Old 11-27-2017, 12:31   #1
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Hello all, I am new here. I'm 56, my mom is a diabetic who started on insulin last year at age 74, my dad is not diabetic. Since a few years now I have been battling both Psoriasis and Psoriatic Arthritis and had been changing my diet little by little accordingly.

Right now though I plan to start on a serious diet for that but thinking I may as well also adjust my diet plan to try to prevent myself from becoming diabetic or at least minimize the chances.

So guys the diet plan I will need to follow for Psoriasis will be gluten-free/lectin-free/dairy-free/sugar-free/nightshade free but of course there will be foods which may be ok for me to eat for Psoriasis but not good for diabetic purposes and is the reason I am here.

Can you guys advise me on foods which will help prevent diabetes and/or foods I should avoid please? Thanks, Mike.

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Hello all, I am new here. I'm 56, my mom is a diabetic who started on insulin last year at age 74, my dad is not diabetic. Since a few years now I have been battling both Psoriasis and Psoriatic Arthritis and had been changing my diet little by little accordingly.

Right now though I plan to start on a serious diet for that but thinking I may as well also adjust my diet plan to try to prevent myself from becoming diabetic or at least minimize the chances.

So guys the diet plan I will need to follow for Psoriasis will be gluten-free/lectin-free/dairy-free/sugar-free/nightshade free but of course there will be foods which may be ok for me to eat for Psoriasis but not good for diabetic purposes and is the reason I am here.

Can you guys advise me on foods which will help prevent diabetes and/or foods I should avoid please? Thanks, Mike.
I don't think anyone can answer that definitively. I focus mostly on the three-fold increase in diabetes of the last 50 years. That's a pretty unprecendented data point in the entire history of disease!

There were major changes in diet during that time and I think they are 100% relevant. Therefore, quite logically, a starting point for an anti-diabetic diet would be to reverse those changes - and maybe take them a little farther on the same trajectory.

So, base on that, this is what I'd do (I have to take it farther since I'm already diabetic):

1. Decrease polyunsaturated fatty acids - a LOT
2. Increase saturated fats to completely replace the PUFA
3. Eliminate sugar as close to completely as possible
4. Reduce starches significantly
5. Keep protein at the lower end of what is "normal" today
6. Eat fat (mostly saturated) to satiety

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So, base on that, this is what I'd do (I have to take it farther since I'm already diabetic):
Whoa, thanks but as expected I will have some issues as for Psoriasis reasons so let me itemize what you've written please.

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1. Decrease polyunsaturated fatty acids - a LOT
I have to limit meat to only 3 meals per week so I have been using more fish maybe 8 meals per week so not sure I have much of a choice here.

Also I have Almond milk with breakfast daily and almond nuts a few times per week, I am not seeing Almonds mentioned on the Polyunsaturated fats list only walnuts so would that be ok?


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3. Eliminate sugar as close to completely as possible
I have a little raw honey as sweetener with green tea and almond milk each morning, what other substitutes are there?

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4. Reduce starches significantly
Far as bread, cereal, pasta, rice and flour goes. I had planned on switching to gluten-free options, would that work?

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Far as bread, cereal, pasta, rice and flour goes. I had planned on switching to gluten-free options, would that work?
Actually, it would be worse. To make a gluten-free type bread requires replacing wheat with other starches, which have more carbohydrates in them per volume than wheat.

A better plan would be to look for grain-free, low-carb bread/cake/cookie substitutes. However, they mostly contain almond flour and flaxseed meal. (Are almonds okay with your diet?)

I have multiple food allergies and am gluten intolerant. When I became diabetic I had to stop eating all starchy foods. I also cannot eat (very much) egg or dairy - which makes low-carbing more challenging - and potatoes (which are off the menu now anyway).

Here's a good place to start when thinking about reducing carbohydrates to address a possible propensity toward developing diabetes. It's actually a super healthy way to eat for anyone - and many find that when eating this way other health issues are addressed as well.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

Here's my LCHF dairy-free thread - may offer you some ideas.

http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...out-dairy.html

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Ok, thanks for the info and links, I will read up on those links and get back here.

Yes, so far I see nothing preventing me from almonds, as mentioned in my previous post I eat almond nuts and use almond milk each morning.

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At a glance looking at both links, yes I am going to have major problems between a diet for Psoriasis and Diabetes prevention as one diet will not be good for the other sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Wis I could find a dietitian or nutritionist would be qualified with BOTH issues to better advise me, any ideas on how I might go about finding such a person or forum please?

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With diabetes, it's the carbohydrates that cause the problem in blood sugar control. It's not necessary to eat a lot of meat, and actually just eating the minimum for repair and maintenance of tissues is all that's needed.

Since wheat and gluten cause all kinds of health issues in a lot of people, and even though it's not really known what causes psoriasis, just eliminating gluten would be good if this is what contributes to it for you.

I highly doubt you'll find a nutritionist or dietitian who can help you sort out the various foods. But you might get lucky. They typically adhere to the food pyramid heavy on carbohydrates and grains.

Where did you learn of a diet for psoriasis? (Just curious since I've not heard of that before.)

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Psoriasis and Psoriatic Arthritis has it's diet restrictions and recommendations which does not line up with some aspects of Diabetic diet, that is where the tricky part is. Also when you add in lectin free diet makes it even more difficult.

This in my experience is the best resource for psoriasis on the net:

https://www.inspire.com/groups/talk-psoriasis/

Dr. Pagano's diet plan seems to be the standard:

Dr Pagano diet for Psoriasis - Psoriasis Self Management

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ok... here is the thing.

doctors... the ADA... the recommendations due to illness... Personally... I would throw them out the window.

I have plaque psoriasis. well... had plaque psoriasis

when I went keto... the psoriasis went away.. no medication was helping me or if it did... it always came back.

now that I eat a keto lifestyle, I dont have it anymore.

doctors will steer you away from keto.. doctors will think they have the answers and will be very happy to provide medicine for your issues.

I find that living a keto lifestyle solved all of my medical issues.

I was 496BG... now I am at around 75
My blood pressure was 160/110 ... now 115/75
I had plaque psoriasis on my arms, legs and scalp... now its gone
I lost 92 pounds.


and I take NO medication


To me... you need to research as much as you can and decide for yourself what is best for you. If you did this and you feel the diet you are on for the psoriasis is working and is fixing the problem... then you should continue but dont continue a diet because a doctor told you or its in a pamphlet how to eat . Find out as much as you can and make the choices yourself (if you havent already)

my doctor was not a huge fan of Keto and my ENDO HATED it...

but it provided the results and my general doctor has been flipped and I no longer see my ENDO. She just wanted to try to get me to take medicine or eat 'healthy carbs'

Ask questions... ask some more questions... and when you are done... ask some more questions.

decide for yourself what to eat.

oh, and btw

I eat

bacon
fatty hamburger
fatty steak
chicken
pork
fish
cheese
real butter
eggs
coffee
and probably more I am skipping

and I LOST 92 pounds and my numbers are all perfect and no more psoriasis.


oh - and WELCOME to the place where education comes first and your health and your decisions comes first. We are one big family and we care about you

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Here are some good starting points to read

Blood Sugar 101 - VERY informative and accurate
http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ng-method.html a tried and true testing method
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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