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Old 04-10-2012, 17:25   #1
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I'm new, was just diagnosed this past week. I went into the hospital with an atrial fibrilation and my BS was over 400 and stayed over 300 my entire stay. At the hospital the nutritionist gave me a diet plan which allowed for a fruit snack between breakfast and lunch. Thing is I ate an orange this morning and my BS spiked to over 400 again.

I'm setting up an appointment with an endocrinologist and a nuritionist this coming week to get more info, but I was wondering if anyone here might let me know some reasons why, with such a high BS, they would assign me anything but a low/near zero carb diet out of the hospital?

I told the lady there that I had done low carb diets before and could easily settle myself into one again if necessary, but she didn't seem to think that was necessary. Thing is, this morning I felt that damn orange hit me. I didn't like the feeling.

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You most likely were given the high carb/low fat diet in the hospital and most of us find that is waaaay to many carbs to keep our blood sugars in line. I eat only 20 or less carbs a day, so fruits, rice, bread, pasta, etc. are not in my WOE (way of eating) so perhaps cut your carbs and be patient and things will right themselves. If you wonder what we eat, check the stickies for b'fast, lunch and dinner for some great ideas and check out our recipe section too.

What was your reading before you ate the orange? Or what was your fasting this morning?

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I'm setting up an appointment with an endocrinologist and a nuritionist this coming week to get more info, but I was wondering if anyone here might let me know some reasons why, with such a high BS, they would assign me anything but a low/near zero carb diet out of the hospital?

I told the lady there that I had done low carb diets before and could easily settle myself into one again if necessary, but she didn't seem to think that was necessary.
Sounds like you have a good idea of what you need to do. Greatly reduced carbs, It is the common sense thing to do too. Don't let the endo and nutritionist steer you off that. Will they say to eliminate the carbs, if they do, you got some good ones. If not, grin, say thank ya, then go eat what your meter says doesn't give you spikes. Google LCHF, paleo, ketogenic, dietdoctor.com, bloodsugar101.

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Welcome to our forum. Most of us were given the same exact diet ( high carb) no matter where our bgs were. This is the ADA type diet that assumes you need those carbs from fruit and whole grains to survive. They also tell us as type 2's we don't need to test alot. Well, that is setting us up for disaster. Most of us have disregared what the Dieticians tell us and we have switched to a Low Carb/High Fat diet. It is very effective for lowering bgs, reducing all types of inflammation from autoimmune diseases and for weight loss. It is very frustrating when Medical Professionals continue to recomend these diets. They also recomend an HbA1c of 7 as good control. Since a normal HbA1c is 4-low 5's, a 7 is way too high. Luckily you saw the light early and now know what to do. The only fruit I can tolerate is 1/4 cup of blueberries and only if my before meal bgs are close to 100.

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i can barely eat fruit. i by barely i mean berries - strawberries, blueberries, thats about it. and it helps if i eat them with fat, like cheese or whipping cream. but other than that i can't do fruit or my numbers spike, exactly like you saw.

questioning why they didn't advise low carb is smart, in my mind. have you heard 'eat to your meter'? its what alot of us do. if you can eat it and at 1 and 2 hour intervals your numbers are fine (for me thats 120, and rarely i push it to 140), then its fine for you.

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Thanks all for the replies, I kind of figured they might be doing some by the book diet for me.

I've never heard of 'eat to your meter', though I have metered before. I used to control my diet down to the gram of damn near everything when I was younger and lifting weights more frequently. I'd go high protein and carb for a while and then switch to a targeted ketogenic diet for cutting purposes. I looked great too. (c: The last ten years or so though, especially the last four, I pretty much let my eating habits go to hell and my exercise has been spotty to say the least. I need to get back on the horse big time. I've had no problem adhering to the diet they gave me, it was pretty much just like old days. It just didn't seem to make any damn sense.

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As you get to know us, you'll recognize that several of us use a ketogenic way-of-eating full-time, and it's very beneficial for our diabetes and overall wellbeing. It's good to have you join us, CDB. So sorry for your diagnosis, but so glad you found your way here.

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As you get to know us, you'll recognize that several of us use a ketogenic way-of-eating full-time, and it's very beneficial for our diabetes and overall wellbeing. It's good to have you join us, CDB. So sorry for your diagnosis, but so glad you found your way here.

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I'm definitely spending time here. This hospital visit scared me to death, and as I've now realized I am not invincible, I guess I need to get back to jogging and lifting regularly. Also my friend is a nutritionist, she's going to help me get my shopping lists in order.

It reads in your posts and in the forums i've skimmed you guys basically do full ketogenic diets. Any targetted around exercise? That was my approach in the past, whatever carbsI ate were generally just before a workout. Otherwise it was hard to maintain a decent level of intensity during the workout. I may have to experiment a bit and see how that method works for me now.

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While not a heavy exerciser myself, I do cardio twice a day and light weights three times a week. I think I might give some perspective. I eat less than 60g carbs/day. I don't "carbo load". I make sure that if I need an energy snack it's some sort of LCHF snack about 90 minutes to 2 hours prior to exercising so that I can make sure my glucose levels are good. I don't use exercise for weight loss but for BG control as I'm on insulin with MDI (Multiple Daily Injections). The only issues I have is relearning how much water my body needs. I stopped exercising about 10 years ago so a the weather heats up here I'm having to relearn how to adjust to heat and desert climate. I don't get tired from lack of energy but from lack of water now.

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While not a heavy exerciser myself, I do cardio twice a day and light weights three times a week. I think I might give some perspective. I eat less than 60g carbs/day. I don't "carbo load". I make sure that if I need an energy snack it's some sort of LCHF snack about 90 minutes to 2 hours prior to exercising so that I can make sure my glucose levels are good. I don't use exercise for weight loss but for BG control as I'm on insulin with MDI (Multiple Daily Injections). The only issues I have is relearning how much water my body needs. I stopped exercising about 10 years ago so a the weather heats up here I'm having to relearn how to adjust to heat and desert climate. I don't get tired from lack of energy but from lack of water now.

It takes practice and relearning but you'll get it.

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Sounds much like my situation, MDI and all, only my exercise was reversed. I was light on cardio and intense with weights.

Glad to be in good company here. My nutritionist friend is also going to send me some recipes, if they're not here already I'll post them as I go through them.

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