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Old 12-19-2010, 08:50   #51
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When I used to eat carbs I was hungry all the time.. I wanted more and more carbs and it seems I was never full for more than an hour or two before I started wanting something else.
Now I eat beween 10 and 25 carbs per day - no more than 10 that aren't from vegetables. I eat a good amount of protein and fats and I stay full for 4-6 hours, my BG is always under 130, and I'm losing weight. If I do get hungry I can always have a cheese stick or some almonds for a snack but I usually don't even think about eating between meals.
Breaking the carb addiction caused a few days of withdrawls that were pretty miserable but since then it's all smooth sailing. All of this happened before I started Metformin so I know it was just breaking the carb cycle.

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Well, for medicine, I am on one gram of Metformin a day. I also take a multi-vitamin, fish oil, and garlic in both fresh and pill form. The garlic is also an assist to the blood-pressure medicine (Losartan/ Cozaar) that I take. I also take the pro-biotic known as ThreeLac for my candidiasis issues (which often afflicts diabetics, from what I understand).

The Weston A. Price Foundation teaches that dietary saturated fat and cholesterol are not your enemies, they are your friends and the low-fat, anti-cholesterol Kool-Aid poured down our throats ever since the 80's is nonsense. My breakfast certainly reflects this philosophy. I have three large scrambled eggs (I much prefer to buy cage-free eggs), nine (yes, nine) turkey sausage links, and a half cup of cooked oatmeal with a tablespoon of coconut oil (good stuff, that coconut oil) and and eighth of a cup of flax seed meal added to it. I also add cinnamon and stevia to the oatmeal. When all other factors are good, my breakfast often makes my blood-sugar do down by as much as thirty to forty points.

You'll probably notice that I eat a pretty large amount of food. The insulin resistance put a lot of weight on me that I can't lose (though the Metformin helped me shed 25 pounds of that weight, for which I am very grateful) and I physically work pretty hard for a living. Since I'm moving a big body around pretty much every day as a matter of course, I figure I need more food than most. Besides, diabetes or not, making myself go hungry is something I simply am not predisposed to do, and the freak-ton of food I consume is what I have determined to be my more-or-less minimum to not go hungry. If I shorten the time I have remaining because I am and have always been a "big-eater", then so be it. I have made what peace I can with the idea of my own mortality since my diagnosis in August 2009. (Personal opinion: We USAmericans are such babies about death. Everybody gets old and everybody dies. Freaking deal with it!)

I'll write more later about my daily eating habits. Right now, I'll just say that I'm reading Gretchen Becker's Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year. She reports that when she was first diagnosed she was eating the American Diabetic Association's recommended low-fat, high-carb diet and while she lost weight on it, she was hungry all the time, so she is "low-carbing" now. Aside from the carb-craving issues involved in Type 2 Diabetes, low-fat dieting often leaves non-diabetics feeling famished and depressed. That's a pretty good indicator, IMO that something isn't the way it's supposed to be! The reason our hunger-feelings (carb-cravings aren't real hunger, BTW, they're more like nicotine-fits) are so hard to resist is so that we give our bodies what they need. Those proto-hominids who could resist their hunger likely perished before they could reproduce and continue their line, so hunger-resistance would be maladaptive.

Another aside about the low-fat diets: they often have people eating bread and pasta. Gretchen Becker had the good sense to substitute fresh vegetables for the white-bread dinner-rolls the low-fat orthodoxy would have had her eat as a staple-food, and I'm thinking the vegan diet is the same way. Blood-sugar-raising wheat gluten is not a diabetic's friend, and I'm vary dubious about any diet that would have a diabetic eating these things. Though I would imagine that most diabetics limit their bread intake as a matter of course because that particular food affects us (or at least it does me) like a sleeping pill! Also, when I was eating a lot of bread for breakfast (balanced out with just enough fat and protein to usually keep the cravings from being a problem), I was getting only partial (but still substantial) relief from my main candidiasis symptom (a rash "down south") with ThreeLac. Now that wheat products are history in my diet, the relief I get from the probiotic is total.

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By "I'm thinking the vegan diet is the same way", I meant in terms of allowing plenty of bread and pasta.

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The vegan diet as proposed by Dr. Barnard allows pumpernickel and rye breads, as two that don't send glucose levels through the roof, as does white bread. I've been eating liberal amounts of both, with good results.

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I have had better luck eating to my meter than following anyone's diet prescription.

Breads spike me .... period! Even some of the low-carb stuff, sometimes!

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Foxl, absolutely! We have this wonderful tool - the meter - which provides proof, not just theory and supposition.

I am considering altering my vegan diet to include some other foods, gradually and in moderation, and letting my meter determine the effects. My single problem with the vegan diet is inability to maintain my weight. I managed to regain a pound this past week, but I had to overeat to the point of discomfort to do it. Meals have become a chore rather than a pleasure.

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I recall one poster saying they were having problems with soy. That's not surprising, as soy is really bad for you. It's astonishing that it was promoted as a health-food back during the 80's and 90's.

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I recall one poster saying they were having problems with soy. That's not surprising, as soy is really bad for you. It's astonishing that it was promoted as a health-food back during the 80's and 90's.
I actually find SPAM more hamrful than soy. And I have not seen anyone ever say they had an actual problem with it, although I have seen people say they BELIEVE it is unhealthy.

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I actually find SPAM more hamrful than soy. And I have not seen anyone ever say they had an actual problem with it, although I have seen people say they BELIEVE it is unhealthy.
The electronic variety of spam is indeed a nuisance if not outright harmful. Regarding the edible variety, I looked up Wikipedia and found that it is spiced ham. Unfortunately I know nothing about ham -- spiced, plain or any other kind. Regarding soy, I take it once in a blue moon in the form of tofu in Chinese and east Asian curries; unfortunately I don't like its taste even though people assure me that it is really tasteless, colourless and odourless. I have read online that it is not very good for health.

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Yes, Rad, there are online articles saying soy is unhealthy.

There is no peer-reviewed evidence that it is, however.

As a low-carbing veg (as are you), I do rely on soy products to get more protein in my diet. So I would be interested in any reliable evidence --- I ahve looked for same. Mostly I run into, I ate soy, my thyroid died, it must be the soy, type information.

I do not use soy oil in cooking and shun it as an ingredient (too much PUFA), however.

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