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Old 12-29-2010, 00:02   #61
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It's not difficult to imagine the food product SPAM having adverse health consequences, because it's a very highly processed food. Similarly, honest vegans will tell you to avoid Soy Protein Isolate, Soy Protein Concentrate, and Textured Vegetable Protein. These soy-foods are the result of intensive industrial processing that turns the soy-protein into something much more obnoxious than it originally was. The state prison system in Illinois has been feeding soy foods to prisoners full of these soy ingredients, and this practice is making many of these inmates very sick.

Fermented soy products such as tempeh and natto are perfectly safe and acceptable for human consumption, I should add.

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So I would be interested in any reliable evidence --- I ahve looked for same. Mostly I run into, I ate soy, my thyroid died, it must be the soy, type information.
Newest Research On Why You Should Avoid Soy by Sallon Fallon and Mary Enig of The Weston A. Price Foundation.


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Newest Research On Why You Should Avoid Soy by Sallon Fallon and Mary Enig of The Weston A. Price Foundation.
Ummm that links to Mercola? Not peer-reviewed research.


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Ummm that links to Mercola? Not peer-reviewed research.
The article lists its sources at the end.


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The article lists its sources at the end.
Self-citations and ? Nexus Magazine? Is that a peer-reviewed source?

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I tried those soy-based "hamburger" patties - they were dreadful. I consume a lot of soy milk with no problems, but I've read that some people are allergic to soy of any kind.

Apparently, Dr. Barnard's vegan diet is becoming more popular; other specialists in diabetes are recommending the same or very similar eating plan. I do have one important question, though. Do some of these writers confuse the health benefits with the ethical considerations? Why, for instance, are fat-free yogurt and fat-free milk (cow's) proscribed? The only thing I saw in Barnard's book is that animal protein is tough on the kidneys. In moderation?

I could live with this diet long-term, except that, as I've mentioned, I continue to lose weight on it. This morning - 95.5 lbs.

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I tried those soy-based "hamburger" patties - they were dreadful. I consume a lot of soy milk with no problems, but I've read that some people are allergic to soy of any kind.

Apparently, Dr. Barnard's vegan diet is becoming more popular; other specialists in diabetes are recommending the same or very similar eating plan. I do have one important question, though. Do some of these writers confuse the health benefits with the ethical considerations? Why, for instance, are fat-free yogurt and fat-free milk (cow's) proscribed? The only thing I saw in Barnard's book is that animal protein is tough on the kidneys. In moderation?

I could live with this diet long-term, except that, as I've mentioned, I continue to lose weight on it. This morning - 95.5 lbs.
Well, let's see. SOME of the soyburgers are bad, others, I like. But I have not eaten meat in ... 38 YEARS! So I have different expectations.

YES, the PCRM, of which Barnard AND Ornish are a part (both developed the diet but market it, individually!), have a vegan agenda, allegedly based on a relationship with PETA. I do not know if this is true. Personally, I tried that diet when my thyroid died (autoimmune disease), and could not sustain it. I considered it when diagnosed with D, but recalling my failure, instead opted to try Low-carb.

Kidneys ... well, that is a huge subject of debate in the peer-reviewed literature. Some say protein is not a problem until there is evident renal failure. I am inclined to agree ... but in contrast, high blood sugars carry a DEFINITE, well-established renal failure risk.

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Thanks, Foxl. I may return to the strict vegan diet if my glucose levels climb out of the normal range. I'll let my meter determine that.

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Now on my third week of this diet and im converted to being a vegan. Been type 2 for about 6 years, diet controlled initially then a rapid increase in medication. Daily blood readings of up to 16 and diabetic doctor talking about insulin!

Blood readings after week 3 now 7.1, weight loss in 3 weeks 10lbs and feel brilliant. This from a previous meat loving die hard. Doc suggesting if this continues he'll be happy reduce medication.
Just to update on my progress on the vegan diet.
At the start of this way back in August 2010 my HbA1c was 9.8 and weight was 95kg. Now on my last check up in December my HbA1c is 7 and weight is now 82kg.
The best part is I feel great and full of energy.
My diet before this was to follow as best I could a very healthy diet as recommended by many a diabetic leaflet.
In the months since starting the diet I purposely never did any extra exercise, even though I felt I wanted to, as I wanted to see what the diet alone would make to readings etc.
As a previous meat eater, fish eater and dairy product fan I can honestly say I don't miss it one bit and never fely healthier.
I never struggle for anything to eat but stay away from over processed vegan food - the soya burgers etc.
2011 here I come!!

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Updating my "progress" (lack thereof): I am becoming disenchanted with this diet for controlling glucose levels. It worked fine for me as long as I continued losing weight. Once I managed to stop that, eating the exact same foods but more of them, my glucose levels started back up.

I now have a pantry and freezer full of vegan meals, could live on them for at least 2 months.

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