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NSDad126 01-03-2019 04:08

https://i1.wp.com/balancedbabe.com/w...size=700%2C465A fast sidedish or pasta imitation is possible by spiralizing a cucumber r zucinni

You know how slicing a radish into thin slices takes away it's sharpness?

Well, there is something about cucumber slices that I'm not fond of, yet, the spiralized cucumber tastes much better.

NSDad126 01-03-2019 04:11

I also make an improvised kraft dinner noodle but substituting the pasta for cut yellow wax beans.

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VeeJay 01-03-2019 05:19

Now that's a great idea. Wax beans don't have much flavor so wouldn't compete.

PhoenixFire 01-04-2019 21:54

The more I read about keto, the more I think it's too restrictive for me. I was trying to view junk food like a former alcoholic views beer..."Never touch it" and I may be able to do that with the worst of the foods but now I'm wondering if this is the way to go with things like strawberries with cottage cheese and pasta salad and bean salad.

I don't know if it's feasible to have that mindset for the rest of my life. Then again maybe the idea of moderation is a myth too since 95% of diets fail and, for many people, having one cookie leads to the whole bag being devoured. I snacked too much today (on nuts and cheese and crackers).

Also, the magazine I'm reading (I got it from the drugstore) called "The Complete Guide to Keto" talks about the flu symptoms I will get during the switch over. That doesn't sound fun. :(

Also, I can't afford to eat organic or buy things like almond flour (I got rid of the Wheat Belly diet book when I calculated the cost for making one loaf of banana bread—it was absurd...$14 Canadian I think). The fact that I don't like veggies that much doesn't help. Also the prep time was described by someone, who cooked regularly, like "a full time job." I don't know if this is true. The magazine doesn't recommend staying on keto for a long duration either (yet it won't say exactly why or recommend a length of time to do it).

Has anyone here done keto for years?

I think that I might like Whole30 or Paleo better.

Anyways, I'm rambling. Just had to get my thoughts out there.

itissteve 01-04-2019 23:07

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFire (Post 1314557)
I think that I might like Whole30 or Paleo better.

Measuring aside (even that gets easier over time), going low-carb/high-fat or keto is about as complicated as you want to make it. You don't have to eat organic. You don't have to make keto bread or muffins (if you can live without baked goods).

My breakfast most mornings is eggs and some meat (like bacon) on the side. My lunch most days calls for opening a bag of salad greens, cutting up other vegetables that look interesting (like peppers and mushrooms), and adding some protein (leftover hamburger, maybe canned tuna). Simple and easy (if a little boring, but I'm making that trade right now).

These people on keto Web sites or writing books about how to make keto sushi and keto pudding parfaits and "fried chicken" with keto ingredients, IMHO, mean well and it's great that those recipes exist. But you don't have to use them. You're not making money when you cook dinner like they are. You may not care about pudding parfaits at all. You don't have to cook what you don't want to eat.

The Way I See It, Pt. 1: I have a condition that makes it difficult for my body to manage carbohydrates. It means that certain foods are now off-limits to me. It stinks, but it is what it is. If I had a peanut allergy, I would avoid peanuts. I don't think I'd spend lots of time forming virgin pea protein and free-range egg whites and ground-up organic almonds into little peanut-shaped pieces just so I could eat "freanuts" or whatever somebody wanted to call them*. Organic food is fine (for lots of reasons) but it's not clear to me that eating is a waste of time unless I eat totally organic. *shrug* But that's me.

The Way I See It, Pt. 2: IMHO any eating plan that reduces carbohydrate levels and takes some processed foods off your plate is A Good Thing. Eating according to whatever those rules are will leave you better off than you are now.

Not everyone can do keto. I flirt with it (and, now that keto is popular, use the term as a shorthand for low-carbohydrate/high-fat) but I got great results just going low-carb without going to keto. Others have not gotten the results they wanted until they went keto. Everyone's diabetes is different.

If even low-carb/high-fat is too restrictive right now as you balance medications and changes in activity levels and the rest of life, then try paleo or Whole30. Maybe once you've got those down and you start seeing results, you'll want to take the next step. But I'd hate to see you go down the diabetes-complication-and-medication rabbit hole just because keto didnít work for you and you never did better than the "standard diabetic diet".

Does that make sense?


* no idea if this actually would work

VeeJay 01-05-2019 00:50

Keto is certainly a good way to eat. But not everyone can or even wants to go that restrictive. As Steve mentioned, for some diabetics, if they want to stay off meds or not use insulin, that HAVE TO go keto. But most don't.

Because this thread is about keto, of course there's more discussion about keto. Don't think that everyone on this forum does keto just because it's the topic of this thread.

I tried keto, found I didn't stick with it very well, and have gone back to what worked for me in the beginning. A maximum of 30grams of carbs per day - give or take 5-10g here and there. How I ended up with this level is by testing.

I can't stress enough how important it is to test. It's way more important than choosing a "diet". If you test, you KNOW what you can and cannot eat, irregardless of what any diet guru says.

I think choosing a diet plan is helpful in the beginning to take a lot of the guess work out of meal preparation and to discover what you like within the limits of that plan. But once you get the basics down, as long as you test, you can expand your food choices beyond it. (Or, you may discover that the plan is too generous with carbs for your own body to handle.)

One of the reasons I don't use "diet" to describe how I eat is because my way of eating is for life. It's not a temporary thing - because diabetes is not temporary.

VeeJay 01-05-2019 01:02

NOTICE:

I have started a new thread to discuss various diets for treating diabetes for those who would like to continue the discussion of other ways of eating other than keto - and to keep this thread on topic about keto.

https://www.diabetesforum.com/diabet...ml#post1314573

auto 02-23-2019 06:07

Hello again. I have been eating keto for nine years. My last post on this forum was 5 years ago, so please forgive me if I am out of context. Since then I have been running my food center and doing some work with the international keto scientific community. I ran a conference last year and we thought our keynote speaker video was lost. Well, we found it (long story) and just today we posted it to YouTube. I am pleased to provide this link to Dr. Tim Noakes' personal and professional experience with LCHF for all to see. Your critique is welcome.

Cassie2922 02-23-2019 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by NSDad126 (Post 1314437)
https://i1.wp.com/balancedbabe.com/w...size=700%2C465A fast sidedish or pasta imitation is possible by spiralizing a cucumber r zucinni

You know how slicing a radish into thin slices takes away it's sharpness?

Well, there is something about cucumber slices that I'm not fond of, yet, the spiralized cucumber tastes much better.

I bought a spiralizer and it works great with zucchini, but not much else. I would think a cucumber is too full of water to spiralize.

NSDad126 03-05-2019 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassie2922 (Post 1316821)
I bought a spiralizer and it works great with zucchini, but not much else. I would think a cucumber is too full of water to spiralize.

Yes, the zucchini is very nice, the cucumber doesn't work as well but I like the flavor anyway


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