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Kaiso 01-01-2019 21:39

Bad meal for a diabetic?
 
I was recently diagnosed with diabetes. I though my diet was not bad and was surprised. At any rate, I reduced my sugar and carb intake even more, but wondered about one of my breakfast meals. Many mornings I make a breakfast of:

2 toasted slices of Trader Joe's GF Multigrain Brown Rice bread with a dollop of Trader Joe's Smoked Salmon w/Capers dip.

On one slice I put a poached egg. On the other a bit of Smoked wild caught salmon.

I wash it down with a mug of decaf green tea with Stevia.

Is this a bad meal for a diabetic? Is the toast too much carbs?

I tested my before my meal and was at 149 mg/dl, and hour after the meal it was 219mg/dl, and 176 md/gl an hour after that.

itissteve 01-01-2019 22:16

Welcome to the forum, Kaiso!

Your meter is your ultimate guide to "too much" and it looks like it was.

Depending on what was in it, the toast alone could have provided 30-45 grams of carbs -- more than many of us here take in in a single day. It might be worth checking the label for the dip to make sure they didn't sneak some sort of food starch into it to smooth things out. And it wouldn't hurt to see if there was a glaze (maple, brown sugar, something) on the smoked salmon. If you're not used to reading labels, there are surprising amounts of carbs in lots of foods you might not suspect.

Are you on any medication or insulin now?

VeeJay 01-01-2019 23:13

I would suggest that you could have done better without all the carbohydrates.

Since organ and nerve damage will be occurring with blood sugar levels above 140, a pre-meal level of 149 is already a cause for concern, and add to that more carbohydrates, well, your result of over 200 one hour after the meal is not a good place to be in.

So, yes, that was a bad meal for a diabetic. However, without the toast, it could be just fine.

Kaiso 01-01-2019 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by itissteve (Post 1314373)
Welcome to the forum, Kaiso!

Your meter is your ultimate guide to "too much" and it looks like it was.

Depending on what was in it, the toast alone could have provided 30-45 grams of carbs -- more than many of us here take in in a single day. It might be worth checking the label for the dip to make sure they didn't sneak some sort of food starch into it to smooth things out. And it wouldn't hurt to see if there was a glaze (maple, brown sugar, something) on the smoked salmon. If you're not used to reading labels, there are surprising amounts of carbs in lots of foods you might not suspect.

Are you on any medication or insulin now?

I do read labels. The salmon is just salmon. Checked the spread, it has a lot of ingredients, one is sugar, though it doesn't taste sweet at all.

I need to be more observant.

itissteve 01-02-2019 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiso (Post 1314377)
I need to be more observant.

I think all of us, at one point or another, have been sandbagged by a food that didn't seem like it could have as many carbs as it did. :sad2:

mbuster 01-02-2019 11:31

Hi Kaiso, welcome to the forum.

I know for me the toast wouldn't do me well. My goal is to try to eat 30 or less grams per day, The two slices of bread show to be 38 grams of carbs, 2 of those were fiber and 4 were sugar. I haven't had a slice of bread in over 7 years. I do miss sopping up egg yolk with a well buttered biscuit when having fried eggs.

Best thing to do is to test your BG before you eat a meal, then one hour after, and two hours after and let you BG meter tell you if it was good or bad for you.

rsfletcher 01-02-2019 16:38

One other thing to keep in mind and this likely varies from person to person and may not apply to Type 2 - I have no idea. but with me - the stress of getting up in the morning raises my BGs. As a result I don't even eat breakfast any more and I still have to give myself a fast acting shot of insulin to keep it down. It's pretty extreme - I'll wake up and measure in at at around 120 mg/dl - grab a shower and 20 minutes later - I'll be at 225 mg/dl. If I give a shot before taking a shower and all those other regular early morning things - my BGs stablize within the normal range. I used to think it was the dawn phenom but quickly discovered my BGs were not low enough to cause that. It's just the stress of getting up first thing in the day - I guess it's stressful for everyone - I read somewhere that the majority of heart attacks happen in the morning too.

So don't set your expectations too high because if you're like me - it might not matter what you eat or not eat in the morning. Another example of how managing diabetes is sometimes easier said than done.

diabetes86 01-04-2019 03:23

So 149 before the meal 219 after... a BG rise of 70 PTS. Damage to our bodies starts at BG over 140.

So you tell me.

div2live 01-04-2019 17:09

Kaiso....welcome to the forum! Seems like you jumped right in and as you found out people on here will share what they think and what they have experienced themselves. I believe this ongoing feedback and perspective is critical to us in learning to control this disease.

A key point here is that most on this website have a common knowledge base, making it much easier to understand what we all have to say. Unfortunately, I am not sure anyone provided some insight for you as to where we all obtained some knowledge regarding taking control of our diabetes. As you probably are finding out, medical information from practitioners, specialists, and other diabetic websites provide many conflicting views on this disease and proper treatment. None of us are medical professionals, but all of us have this disease and most of us have learned to control it. To learn more about how we do it please review the below websites, by doing this you will then have the same base knowledge we all have. Then you can judge our comments and experiences with the same knowledge base we all have.


Check it out and let us know what you think....Good Luck

http://www.bloodsugar101.com/

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Rhall 01-18-2019 18:27

If you still are wanting toast - there are some lower carb breads that are available that won't break the bank either. I keep Aunt Millies light whole wheat on hand. It's about 8 net carbs per slice. I don't eat it all the time, but seems to be ok with my blood sugar. I routinely try to keep my total carbs around 50 grams per day (30g net).


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