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Old 04-19-2019, 21:43   #21
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Re: "Evil Beans, "Evil Fruit."

Well, beans are the highest fiber food on the planet. Fiber slows down the conversion to glucose & also has many other benefits - like regulating cholesterol & hormones. Carb content is only ONE aspect of what determines how good or bad a food is. I don't think it's as simple as how many grams of carbs, alone.

A typical serving of beans has around 20 gms carbs & 10 gms of fiber. You are only getting 10 net carbs, since fiber is an undigestible carb.

Re: Fruit, a tennis-ball-size apple has 12-15 gms carbs & 4-5 gms fiber (raw, unpeeled, the way fruit should be eaten). Most fruit is considered low glycemic. Fruit is not good when it's processed - as in fruit pie, applesauce, fruit juice, etc.

None of the above is meant to be a threat to keto fans.

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I don't think that 'most fruit is considered low glycemic.' Berries are usually lower than the rest. Pineapple and melons usually are very bad for diabetics.

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The best fruits for diabetes:
A diabetic can eat fruits that are low in sugar - probably those fruits that contain less than 50 percent of glucose content. In this list, you have the following:

Apple fruit: Apple is one of the best fruits for diabetics to eat as there is the saying "eating an apple a day keeps your doctor off the door step". The contribution of apple fruit to reduce blood sugar is amazingly great.

Grape fruit: Grape fruit is another delicious fruit that has been proven to be potent to lower blood glucose level in the blood stream. You can consume grapes just before or after a regular meal to help your pancreas secrete sufficient insulin.

Orange: You are directed to eat daily one orange for control of blood sugar. It is not recommended to consume orange in juice form as the potential of fiber component is reduced. Peeled slices can be good to eat rather than sugar added juice.

Other fruits for diabetes: Blackberries, blueberries, gooseberries, cherries, peas, and water melon are also good fruits for diabetics. A diabetic will be free from risks of diabetes complications if these fruits are consumed in moderation.

Fruits to avoid for diabetes: A diabetic will be safe if any fruits high in sugar are avoided. In this list you have mango, papaya, pine apple, dried figs, and raisins.

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Where does this information come from??

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Whether it is Keto, ADA, or some other entity recommended food, what matters to me is what it is doing to my BG. My meter tells me that beans and fruit in general are not "safe" for me. But then, I believe the studies that show BG over 140 causes damage.

As far as fiber, you probably won't find this interesting.

Sugar free, no sugar added, safe for diabetics, healthy this, healthy that, all throw out a big beware flag to me.

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As far as fiber, you probably won't find this interesting.

Sugar free, no sugar added, safe for diabetics, healthy this, healthy that, all throw out a big beware flag to me.
Your cited study is interesting; it cites a study wherein a dietary-intervention group lost weight by reducing fat intake and increasing fiber intake: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11333990 .

Your cited study also cites a study which demonstrated that fiber SUPPLEMENTS (as opposed to whole foods) had no effect on cholesterol levels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15453909

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Where does this information come from??

I'm wondering the same thing. When making nutrition claims, people should provide links to their sources.
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I don't think that 'most fruit is considered low glycemic.' Berries are usually lower than the rest.
Indeed: Berry consumption is recommended by the American Diabetes Association: Diabetes Superfoods: American Diabetes Association®
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That study from the fiber metastudy says that the intervention group got one-on-one in person dietary advice and the other group got a pamphlet. What did each group really eat? At the annual visits are the ones having the counseling going to say anything but they were following the advice given.

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I don't think that 'most fruit is considered low glycemic.' Berries are usually lower than the rest. Pineapple and melons usually are very bad for diabetics.
From Oregon State University, here is a chart showing the glycemic load for 100+ different foods: https://extension.oregonstate.edu/si...cemicindex.pdf . The fruits, though of high glycemic index, have low glycemic load (because fruit is mostly water). The watermelon's glycemic load is low. Raisins are high.
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