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Old 06-09-2019, 12:46   #11
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The several small meals a day was recommended many years ago to me because of hypoglycemia, and recently to help minimize acid reflux from having a hiatal hernia.

I can see it could possibly be helpful for diabetes only in that there could be fewer carbs at a time so one's insulin production would better match the need. Perhaps a nice theory but in the real world not of much practical use for blood sugar control.

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Winomaster, thanks for your reply. You seem to be going on a real good path, just remember we all react differently, so expect somethings to be different and unique to you.

I have never been a fan of fasting, but I know many others find it useful. On the other hand I usually have eaten dinner by 7pm every night. I go to bed around 10pm to 11pm. I get up between 6:30 to 7:00am. Therefore I fast for 11-12hrs. every day. Sometimes I see my fasting blood sugar spiking over 140, that's the morning phenomenon many of us talk about. When I start doing this I will eat a few small pieces of hard cheese before bed, and that fixes the morning spike for me!

Also, a word of caution to all about weight loss. I lost 70lbs. in less than a year. I was taking both blood pressure medication and a water pill when I started the weight loss. within a few weeks I started getting light headed. Part of it was salt loss, my body was throwing off water and so I had to drink more water and salt my food a lot more. That worked right away. Then a few weeks more and it happened again and taking salt did not help! I check my blood pressure and it was very low. I called my doctor and he cut my dosage of medication for blood pressure in half. That fixed it!

After I had lost all this weight with in a few months I had a bad gout attack (Ouch), it was really painful. My doctor started me on medication to stop these attacks and gave me something to take if I had another attack. These were strong meds with lots of potential complications, but I had to use them. I continued to have these attacks every 4-6 weeks in my big toe and then my ankles. After over 6 months of this my doctor finally realized that my water pill I was taking was no longer needed. It was cause my body to pass water to fast, not allowing my kidneys to filter properly. I stopped the water pill and had two more attacks, but each was smaller than before. That was over 5 months ago, and I have had no attacks since....thank God, if you have lots of these attack you will get permanent Arthritis in those joints....

So if you lose weight challenge your doctor to back you off on meds....

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When the body goes into fasting mode, it "thinks" it's starving and will try to retain fat. Similarly, after fasting, it will try to retain all the new fat.]
My thinking is that when you are a diabetic, you have constant elevated levels of both glucose and insulin. And in the presence of insulin, your body will not release fat from storage. So, if you don't have enough insulin circulating to drive the glucose into the cells where it can be burned...and you cant release fat from storage because there is none-the-less too much insulin circulating for fat stores to be released...then yes, you are starving.

The greatest aid to the diabetic, as I have begun to realize, is fasting or intermittent fasting. Total fasting has you with insulin levels at rock bottom all day and night. So, your body makes the transition to burning fat nearly exclusively. And you lose fat at the highest possible rate. Intermittent Fasting or even the keto diet leaves your insulin levels at rock bottom for LESS than 24 hours. Any glucose you eat, or protein that breaks down to glucose, will have to be burned off before insulin levels return to rock bottom and fat can once more be released. A total fast strikes me as the more efficient way to go about clearing the body of fat stores. But, I have total fasted twice(Only water intake), one time it was a breeze..The last time it was somewhat more challenging. I was consuming (zero cal ) bouillon for the salt and that may have been a mistake.


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My doc prefers I eat 3-5 tiny meals rather than one or two large ones.

So, is this theory antiquated? Naive? Just plain wrong?
I have read that this is absolutely wrong (See Dr Fung's U-tube videos) It keeps your insulin levels too high for a longer portion of the day. The idea is to keep your eating to a 4-5 hr window and then to have a long period where insulin levels have returned to rock bottom and fat loss can resume.

When I told my diabetes Doctor's nurse practioner that I intended to fast, she said OK but dilute 90 grms of carbs from orange juice into that water and drink it through my waking hours. First of all, if you are taking in 90 grams of glucose over the day, you are not on a real fast. And you will not lose weight because all that glucose will keep your insulin levels too high to have any fat release. You could hit that sugar with injected insulin, but that just stores some as fat and keeps you with elevated insulin levels. They know nothing about fasting.


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When I started losing weight, my first order of business was to eliminate the water pill after talking with my doctor. I too have had to reduce my blood pressure med during weight loss. I honestly don't know for certain that it is the water loss associated with weight loss that is causing the lowered BP. But I read that insulin is water retaining and when you are dieting, you are using less insulin and so the water drops out.

The reservation I have about the water loss lowering BP is that as I resumed eating and presumably my water levels returned to my norm, my BP remained low. So, the issue remains unsettled in my mind.

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