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Old 12-16-2019, 12:52   #1
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I have been having one slice of Wonder Spoleta Italian bread with peanut butter in the morning, however 2 hours later my reading is between 140-150. (this bread is listed as 13 carbs)

Reading about the various breads has left me thoroughly confused.

Can anyone recommend a descent tasting slice of bread to have with peanut butter in the AM ?

PS I don't like rubber or card board.

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Carbohydrates, unfortunately, are part and parcel of baked goods. The flour they're made of contains carbs. Bread is particularly affected because the porous structure so many people love comes from air trapped by pockets made by wheat gluten. There aren't really good substitutes for gluten.

Your best bet, some would say, is to switch to either a "quick" kind of bread (which will have a texture more like a banana bread or zucchini bread) -- it's possible to substitute nut flour for grain flour in those and reduce the carb count -- or to switch to a flat bread that has lots of air pockets (and, therefore, fewer carbs per usable amount). These will be more like crackers or thin pizza dough, though, not sliced bread.

Your other best bet, many (most?) of us would say, would be to live without this particular breakfast. To manage our blood glucose, many of us here follow a very-low-carb way of eating in which we take in only about 20 grams of carbs a day. Your slice of bread with peanut butter (which contains a fair amount of carbs on its own; peanuts are higher in carbs than most nuts and many brands of peanut butter add sugar) fills our daily quota just by itself.

I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but your options here are not many or good.

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When you consider carbs, is it carbs as listed or subtract fiber and sugar for net carbs.

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When you consider carbs, is it carbs as listed or subtract fiber and sugar for net carbs.
Many subtract fiber but I don't. I've found I'm usually closer to the mark not deducting but the only way to know for you is to test. Sugar is pure carb and never subtracted.

A great bread substitute is chaffles. A thread on them is here. Over the years I've baked low-carb bread with almond flour, done workarounds, but chaffles are brilliant, easy and the best thing ever! They brought sandwiches back into my life.

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Chaffle, I couldn't find it on the web, just recipes. Do you buy it like bread or is it some kind of mix.
What I did find seemed to indicate a lot of saturated fat.

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Chaffle, I couldn't find it on the web, just recipes. Do you buy it like bread or is it some kind of mix.
What I did find seemed to indicate a lot of saturated fat.
Chaffles are made in a waffle maker, most commonly with a Dash waffle maker (available on Amazon for $10). There are several recipes for a basic chaffle, I use 1/2 cup shredded cheese to 1 egg for 2 chaffles. But one can make them without cheese - here's one that uses coconut flour in lieu of cheese and you can find others.

They are super quick and easy to make. I keep the Dash on my counter and always have ingredients for them so from hunger pang to first bite is not more than 5 minutes

Addendum: they freeze fine. I recently had surgery and made a bunch of them to freeze in preparation - it works well if one doesn't want to make fresh each time.

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I have been having one slice of Wonder Spoleta Italian bread with peanut butter in the morning, however 2 hours later my reading is between 140-150. (this bread is listed as 13 carbs)

Reading about the various breads has left me thoroughly confused.

Can anyone recommend a descent tasting slice of bread to have with peanut butter in the AM ?

PS I don't like rubber or card board.
What is your reading before eating? How long does it take to go back to normal? What meds are you taking? For me (insulin pump user), I wish it would only go to 140. What is your goal two hours after eating?

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Forgot to mention how I eat p-nut butter. Trader Joe's sells some really good crisp bread crackers (gluten free Norwegian Crispbread) that have only 6 carbs with 5 being fiber, so net carb 1 gram. They also have a regular one that is equally good, and cheaper, with only a few more carbs. When I showed this second kind to my doctor, he commented that it might not even be necessary to take an insulin bolus for it.

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When you consider carbs, is it carbs as listed or subtract fiber and sugar for net carbs.
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On the label, "total carbs" is made up of sugar + fiber. One can subtract fiber* because it is non-digestible. But the sugar part is very digestible and is what makes up the "net" carbs.

*this is a YMMV - some can subtract fiber, some can't. Some don't just to keep a hedge factor.

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I have been having one slice of Wonder Spoleta Italian bread with peanut butter in the morning, however 2 hours later my reading is between 140-150. (this bread is listed as 13 carbs)

Reading about the various breads has left me thoroughly confused.

Can anyone recommend a descent tasting slice of bread to have with peanut butter in the AM ?

PS I don't like rubber or card board.
I was taught to "eat to your meter." If my BG is over 140 2 hours after I eat a particular food item, then I cross it off my menu list. I had to give up eating PB sandwiches .

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