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Old 07-03-2012, 18:06   #11
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Currently, in trying to move into deeper ketosis, one "cheat" would set me back to square-one. Not worth it.

I have occasionally indulged in perhaps one item that isn't on my WOE plan, but a whole meal? No way.

Restaurant eating so far doesn't seem to be much of a problem because one can usually get a meat and a veggie, and also a salad. I'm so used to not having what everyone else has because of the gluten-issue, that eating low carb at a restaurant is easy, and I'm NOT tempted to have bread stuff (talk about being sick - you all don't know what sick means!)

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Old 07-03-2012, 18:18   #12
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I almost never have meals I'd consider a cheat, but when I was East and helping mom with her meals, I would occasionally have bites of her dessert, and once had an actual bowl of ice cream. I was stunned that it didn't have much effect on my bg, but I think it's because otherwise I was eating so LC/HF and in context it wasn't much, and wasn't frequent. My ketostix continued showing ketones.

I thoroughly enjoyed the 'cheat' and fortunately it wasn't enough to set me up for cravings. I agree with Shanny about it being psychological though. If the only way someone can survive is planning a cheat meal once/week, something to look forward to in order to keep them on program, then I guess it's better than being off program entirely. And maybe in time they could make the cheats less frequent. But to actually encourage cheat meals seems odd.

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After this last weekend I learned my lesson about "cheat" meals. Three days of higher all around BG reading just aren't worth a bowl of cereal or a piece of pizza.

Man that hurts to say. Lol

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I ate quite a lot of carbs before Dx but now to me they are trouble and bad - not a cheat luxury or something special - just bad.
I get some salmon wrapped around a trout mix, or something special as a treat and reward. Don't make the bad stuff a reward - just sets you up for problems.

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Old 07-03-2012, 19:23   #15
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Ahhhh, no.

Why keep cycling up and down on carbs??? Not healthy, and not EASY.

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Don´t know if this can be defined as a cheat meal, but today a trip up to Landskrona. Ordered a Danish "Smörrebröd" (rye bread with different toppings). The waitress then said that they had a special offer: You can get three pieces of bread and the price will be almost the same. So I said yes and had all three and I estiminate the amount of carbs about 45 g, probably more.
Tested one hour later and the result was 5.8 so this time no harm done. But I´ve had much higher numbers for example after having too much fruit.

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Old 07-03-2012, 20:14   #17
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I am the first to admit I am far from perfect. Probably the only time I cheat are when I am on vacation and away from my kitchen for 2-3 weeks. Breakfast buffets at hotels are my downfall. We rarely do lunch when we travel so I have to eat enough at breakfast to hold me over. Some places had eggs but they serve them cool to luke warm. As my daughter says they don't do breakfast big in Spain. Most of it was sweet rolls, cheese and yogurt and cereal. After awhile I ate so much cheese I couldn't look at another slice. Most of our main meals were set "meal of the day" , so you really didn't know what you were getting. You usually had the option of meat or fish. Lots of their appetizers were with potatoes or beans. I do have to admit some days I even snuck a few bites of fresh bread. So I definitely pushed myself out of Ketosis but really didn't gain weight which was good. So I definitely couldn't see doing this on a weekly basis, at least if I cared about my HbA1c.

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Old 07-03-2012, 20:47   #18
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My only cheat meal is a plate full of deep fried seafood at Sullivan's Rest. Never gives me a rise in my BG level, but I gain 3-5 lbs over the next few days from glycogen storage and fluid. Its worth it sometimes. I been there again, this time I got the broiled captains platter and had them bring me a half gallon of melted butter.

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Yeah, its a no cheat for me too. It is just not worth having the bg bounce all over the place. As was mentioned, that just can't be good. I just see the potential of a "cheat meal" turning into a few meals then one a week, then one week out of the month...Once those carb cravings are reawakened .... oops pretty soon no more lc/hf eating and definitely out of ketosis.

This is the way I have to eat now to maintain my health. Personally I think it is foolish to risk messing with a good thing and I think it is reckless of the dr/dietitians /etc to recommend cheat days. I look at this as an allergy to carbs. Do people with peanut allergies for example have "cheat days" and scarf all the nuts they want? No matter how much they might crave them, they can't, not without danger and that is the way I feel about cheat meals. Just my $.02.


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Cheat implies that you are getting away with it which ... I definitely don't. Not only does it knock me out of ketosis, it raises my fasting BG, brings back my heartburn and I have to start all over fighting cravings.

I'm not saying that I don't end up eating food that I regret later but I certainly don't plan on doing that to myself.

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