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Old 07-05-2012, 22:19   #11
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For what it's worth, my whole lipid panel normalized after I went low carb as well as my blood glucose.

No statin involved...just good fats.

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I went on lovastatin for a year right after my diabetes diagnosis - docs seem to prescribe these regardless of lipids levels. Believe me, it is NOT de rigueur. I quit it after a year, because I suffered muscle weakness in my arms/hands, to the point that I couldn't lift common cooking utensils. Others here have suffered much worse consequences.

But then a year later doc prescribed it again. This time I didn't even tell him - I just didn't fill the prescription. Then when I went back in six months, I told him I wasn't using it, and yet my total cholesterol dropped from 220 to 164. He was flabbergasted.

LC/HF will lower your lipids - you don't need a statin. But don't take our word for it - better for you to do the research and make your decision. Then you'll be better able to fend off your doctor's arguments in favor of them. Statins absolutely have no effect on triglycerides - but LC/HF will knock them down in nothing flat.




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Well, I finally called them and they told me my results

Chol: 237
Trig: 471
LDL: 116
HDL 27

He wants to put me on a statin drug I think its called Simvastatin.
This looks like classic insulin resistance to me: low HDL and high triglycerides. I also had this problem. LCHF helped me a great deal. My lipids temporarily worsened while I lost weight, but my HDL is near 50 and my triglycerides are below 100 now. My doctor tried to put me on a statin, I refused, and then she called me non-compliant and wrote that down in my chart. Seriously. I don't regret it, though, because the diet worked within 6-8 months on its own.

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I'm really confused and actually afraid right now. I want to do the right thing to get more healthier. I know that the LC/HF diet works, from what everyone says on here, and I want to try it. I just keep thinking about things that I've read on the internet that if your trigs are high and your blood sugar is elevated you increase your risk of having a heart attack by 2 to 3 times. I want to live I have a lot of living to do, I'm only 51. I want to listen to everyone on here and my doctor. Is the diet in the blood sugar 101 site? If I don't use the statins how long will it take my trig to go down? And will I be okay until they come down? I know what the low carbs are, but what is the fat? Does it mean I can go eat any kind of meat or does it mean low fat like chicken and turkey?

I'm sorry for all the questions, and just want to get everything straight. I guess I'm still in denial about this whole thing. So I'm going to spend some time reading all the info this site has to offer. Thanks again for all of your help. And please don't think I'm not listening to what each of you all are saying. I am listening. This is just all overwhelming to me.

 
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I'm really confused and actually afraid right now. I want to do the right thing to get more healthier. I know that the LC/HF diet works, from what everyone says on here, and I want to try it. I just keep thinking about things that I've read on the internet that if your trigs are high and your blood sugar is elevated you increase your risk of having a heart attack by 2 to 3 times. I want to live I have a lot of living to do, I'm only 51. I want to listen to everyone on here and my doctor. Is the diet in the blood sugar 101 site? If I don't use the statins how long will it take my trig to go down? And will I be okay until they come down? I know what the low carbs are, but what is the fat? Does it mean I can go eat any kind of meat or does it mean low fat like chicken and turkey?

I'm sorry for all the questions, and just want to get everything straight. I guess I'm still in denial about this whole thing. So I'm going to spend some time reading all the info this site has to offer. Thanks again for all of your help. And please don't think I'm not listening to what each of you all are saying. I am listening. This is just all overwhelming to me.
At the end of the day, you must make the decision. All we can do is offer you the benefit of our own experience.

I was diagnosed in August 2010, with a blood glucose of 400 and an HbA1c of 8.2%. My HDL was 39, and my Trigs 96. The HDL was below the floor figure that the French have set at 40. My trigs were on the high side at 96. Neither number too extreme but the ratio between them that a lot of people consider most important was 2.5 where anything above 2 is bad.

My blood glucose now averages 84 and my HbA1c is 4.9%. My HDL stands at 96 and my trigs at 71 for a ratio of 0.7.

This is entirely as a result of the change of diet to reduce my carbohydrate intake to normally around 70 grams per day rather than the 200 plus value the hospital wanted me to eat. I do eat a fairly high fat diet of around 2,200 calories and in the first six months after my diet change I lost 30 pounds in weight. I don't currently need any medication.

That's all I can say - you have to decide.

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I'm really confused and actually afraid right now. I want to do the right thing to get more healthier. I know that the LC/HF diet works, from what everyone says on here, and I want to try it. I just keep thinking about things that I've read on the internet that if your trigs are high and your blood sugar is elevated you increase your risk of having a heart attack by 2 to 3 times. I want to live I have a lot of living to do, I'm only 51. I want to listen to everyone on here and my doctor. Is the diet in the blood sugar 101 site? If I don't use the statins how long will it take my trig to go down? And will I be okay until they come down? I know what the low carbs are, but what is the fat? Does it mean I can go eat any kind of meat or does it mean low fat like chicken and turkey?

I'm sorry for all the questions, and just want to get everything straight. I guess I'm still in denial about this whole thing. So I'm going to spend some time reading all the info this site has to offer. Thanks again for all of your help. And please don't think I'm not listening to what each of you all are saying. I am listening. This is just all overwhelming to me.
My understanding is that triglycerides can go down very quickly with dietary changes, but maybe someone with a little more knowledge about this subject can join the discussion.

Those of us who LCHF (low carb high fat) don't eat unlimited protein. Protein can cause weight gain and raise blood sugar, as some of it converts to glucose in the blood. Personally, I eat just enough to maintain my muscle mass and no more, and that keeps my weight loss and blood sugar in check very well. I eat unlimited fat grams, and my only rule about fat is that it has to be natural. That includes saturated fats. I eat turkey and chicken, but I also eat lots of beef, seafood, and bacon. I like to get protein from cheese, too. You don't have to stay away from the fatty cuts of meat. In fact, they're encouraged!

Sometimes it's hard to get fat for energy without also getting protein, so what many of us do to stay within our protein budget is add butter to our vegetables or heavy cream to our coffee or tea. For example, heavy cream has .3 grams of protein per tablespoon, but a whopping 5.5 grams of fat (depending on the brand).

I know a lot of this sounds counter-intuitive. I was scared, too, and my doctor kept telling me that I was at high risk of heart disease as a diabetic and that I needed statins immediately. Who would ever think that eating butter, cheese, eggs, and fatty meats would raise good cholesterol and lower triglycerides, right? Yeah, my lipids are now the best I've ever seen them, plus my blood sugar is so well controlled that that, too, is reducing my risk of heart disease.

Edit and P.S.: Like John, my A1c is 4.9%. I've also lost 165 pounds. So, as he said, it needs to be your decision, but I can attest that it worked really well for me. I feel so energetic, I look better, and all my blood work is normal to optimal. I just don't talk to my doctor anymore about 'how' I got there.

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For what it's worth, my cardiologist approved, in fact encouraged me to continue on the Atkins' like diet I told him I was on and advised me that if I stuck with it for 2 months, to get a local doctor to order a lipid test. I did that very thing and my Tri had dropped from 97 to 6 in the two months. It has risen but my HDL has gone up more and my numbers are considered 'low risk' now by my lab.

You have to be your own judge, but I'd advise you to try it.




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