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Old 10-03-2012, 04:37   #1
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I got it from a friend I met on another diabetes forum & who has now joined us here - thanks, Abra!

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I got it from a friend I met on another diabetes forum & who has now joined us here - thanks, Abra!

Watch Video: Editorial: Jennifer
Wow, gutsy lady!!!

I might lean toward the importance of watching diet, but that email ... imagine, PRESUMING anyone has full control over their weight ... No WAY.

My daughter in SECOND GRADE came home and asked me if she was too FAT. Clearly she picked it from somewhere. She is Asian, she has full cheeks ... but she also has WASHBOARD ABS. I hope to hell nobody tried to TELL HER she is fat. But even the fact that "fatness" was being discussed by second graders makes me ill.

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Whoo! Is that awesome or what!

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That same video was in a local news channel FB post yesterday. And my favorite news channel discussed it this morning. All of the reporters and anchors said they get hateful mail, criticizing everything from hair to clothing etc. It's sad that there are so many people out there with such poor self-esteem that they find it necessary to criticize the appearance of others.
One anchor said (and she is really quite beautiful!) that you can choose to be offended and choose to get angry about it, or not. Another says she waits a day or so until her anger subsides and then replies. The male anchor says sometimes he will call the person (LOL and that catches them off-guard! LOL) The male anchor said he teaches his kids about "sticks and stones".

I was teased a lot as a kid by my best friends, about totally nonsense things. I was ultra-sensitive and it really affected me for all my life. I just don't trust people very easily. Teasing and bullying hurts people, and can scar them emotionally. The lady in the video chose to go public with this because October is anti-bullying month.

Last year, some girls down the street came to my door to tell me that my grandson had called one of them "fat". I made him apologize to the girl, and then he and I had a serious discussion then about that, and how hurtful it can be. (He was 8 at the time).

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I don't like the seemingly unanimous Kumbaya attitude surrounding this woman's editorial. The guy's email didn't seem to me to be over the top, it was far from an 'attack', and there was nothing in it that was or seemed false. And if it truly didn't bother this lady, she wouldn't have taken over 4 minutes of air time to address the point. The fact that he doesn't personally know her nor watch her show often is irrelevant, and her remarks on those points seem more like a deflection than an honest answer to his email.

As for kids, I got bullied as a child too, to the point of multiple assaults by one kid a year ahead of me in school that eventually even the cops had to get involved to stop, and my weight was the focus of it all. That kind of behavior isn't acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. But there is a difference between bullying and frank/unwanted criticism which happens to be true, and people in the USA need to learn how to take a damn punch. I'm of the opinion that dignity is defined by how you respond to the world, not how the world treats you. It's in how you react to criticism and attacks, not being shielded from them at all costs. And self respect like all other forms of a respect needs to be earned, so if you want to respect yourself then do something worthy of respect.

I would have been more impressed with her if she had simply said something along the lines of, "Thanks for the email, but my health is my business and the concern of me, my family, and my doctor, not you.

"If you want a different role model for your kids, change the channel."

Instead, we got a four minute speech about bullying kids, which this guy didn't do nor suggest doing. He didn't call her fat once in his email, he commented on her physical condition and called it unhealthy, and on the effect which that and her public status might have on kids. I don't see anything in that email that wouldn't be appropriate criticism for a kid if delivered in a less blunt manner if only because they were a kid. Right now my friends are remarkably supportive of me losing weight and getting myself into shape. I'd likely be healthier now if that attitude, and the attendant implied criticism/judgement that goes with it, would have started sooner.

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CDB, we know nothing about that woman's health. We know she's fat, but she could be a marathon runner. Maybe she eats a perfect diet and works out and still can't lose the weight. It happens. She became a role model by speaking out against people who assume that one's appearance determines the kind of person (role model) they are inside.

If weight was totally under our control, everyone would be thin. I've lost over 40 lbs eating lower-carb, but I'm still far from skinny. I know people who are active and eat normally but are still fat. It's great that you're getting healthier, and eating good food and exercising will make most people healthier... it just doesn't guarantee they'll be skinnier.

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I have to agree with Silvertiger here CDB. A person's appearance should have no bearing whatsoever on that individual's intelligence or "what they are portraying" to kids as a role model.

Case in point; I am an overweight woman; I have been overweight most of my life. However, as a kid I was very physical in everything I did including gymnastics, baseball, tag football, kickball, rollerskating, ice skating, bike riding, etc. I did not sit at home playing computer games or watching tv all the time. That option was not available to us. I was always outside from dawn to dusk playing and running around. In the summer I spent my life in the swimming pool. My mother cooked very balanced meals for us and we did not have dessert everyday. We were not allowed to eat a lot of junk food or soda. However, I was still overweight. My mother tried to put me on diets when I was a young teenager (or tween as they call it now) and I would cry because I felt like I was being punished. My two sisters were both incredibly thin, so they could eat everything without consequences.

I slimmed down a bit in my later teen years, but still always carried extra weight for my short stature. I always said if I was 6 feet tall I'd be gorgeous!! But, I'm only 5'2", and I weight over 200 lbs still. I eat a LC/HF diet, I exercise regularly and drink plenty of water throughout the day. I have not lost any weight since going on LC/HF, but with that said I also began using basal/bolus insulin at the same time as adopting my new WOE. So, of course insulin has a bad habit of causing weight gain. I have been able to not gain weight with the insulin, so I see that as a huge success in my eyes. I cannot afford to gain weight, and I'd love to lose weight, but I am satisfied right now to stay where I am as long as I am healthy and my bg's are controlled.

Now, if you did not know me or know that I am diabetic, or that I have difficulties with my lipids, or that I'm perimenopausal and have great difficulty with those symptoms as well, you're first impression would be that I'm chubby therefore I must eat really bad or eat a lot of junk food or processed foods. You might think I'm lazy and lead a sedentary life, and that I must obviously not care about my health. That would be a huge misconception since reality is totally opposite. So, to be judged on one's size or "fatness" is just plain out a bullying technique. Because I'm overweight I don't believe I send out a message that it's in your best interest to eat lots of junk. I am who God made me to be; I accept myself for who and what I am and if other people don't like it, they don't have to look at me or talk to me.

The fact that this woman is a public figure does not give this man the right to knock her for her looks. He should be ashamed.

Okay, rant over. Thanks for listening.

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But I saw nothing in that guy's email that said or even implied she was a bad person because she was fat, or which was even disrespectful. Maybe not the most tactful, but not disrespectful. However, instead of telling him to mind his own business, or detailing her personal situation and explaining why 'overweight' doesn't automatically translate to 'unhealthy' and/or 'slothful,' she gives a speech about bullying kids. I don't particularly disagree with anything she said, it just seems off the point to me is all I'm saying.

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I have to agree with Silvertiger here CDB. A person's appearance should have no bearing whatsoever on that individual's intelligence or "what they are portraying" to kids as a role model.
I saw no comments on her intelligence, as for her suitability as a role model I think that's for individual parents to decide, hence the change the channel option. I can appreciate your personal story as it mirrors my own in many ways, but again, what did he say about her character or intelligence? Or, put another way, isn't the assumption by many that he was insulting her intelligence and character (when he didn't) merely because he pointed out she was over weight an indicator of what's in their minds and not his?

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The fact that this woman is a public figure does not give this man the right to knock her for her looks. He should be ashamed.
There I disagree. You make yourself public, you open yourself up to criticisms. Again, I think integrity is in how we deal with the world, not changing the world such that it never presents us a challenge, deserved or not. And I don't think what she did was wrong so much as a missed opportunity to do something better rather than a Facebookesque "You don't know me..." kind of response. Someone calls me over weight I say they're right, I'm dealing with it, and if they're particularly strident that they should live their own lives and not mine. People who live in glass houses and all that; no one is above criticism.

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CDB, I agree with you, but with that said, I was raised with this saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." I think it should say it all.

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