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Old 11-04-2012, 01:30   #21
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I don't cheat. Mostly for the reasons Shanny, Daytona, and smorgan stated. I've worked too hard to get where I am and don't want to mess it up. One cheat can lead to another and another, and pretty soon I'm off program and have to start all over. A cheat just wouldn't be worth it to me in the long run. Besides I have enough "treats" that are in my menu plan, I don't feel the need to stray. I watched my late husband go blind and lose a leg because he chose not to manage his diet. That is incentive enough for me not to cheat.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:07   #22
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No carb cheats as such, but what i would call a cheat would be an extra potion of tuna mayo, nuts or egg mayo...

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Even though I have regular excursions over 140, I'm not officially diagnosed as having diabetes, so when someone showed up for dinner a few days ago and brought dark chocolate M & Ms as a dessert, it was easy enough, after a glass of wine or two to say, "What the heck. It's only this once, and after all, I'm not really diabetic yet anyway, right?" Got myself a 188, then a 200 a half hour later. :-(

Numbers are returning to my pre-splurge range, but I've definitely got to stop using that "I'm not really diabetic yet" excuse.

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I dont understand "Im not diabetic yet". I think with that you are. I guess the doc hasnt told you officially? I would say for sure to not use that excuse, itll only harm you in the future.

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PC76: Yes, exactly. My fasting is still under the line for diabetes (107 - "Mean Bld Glucose, calc'd") as is my A1c (5.8, 5.9 before that) as of June. However, I've had numbers as high as 248 (September) and 222 (October) since then, both a result of not sticking to my low-carb diet.

My doctor has told me that she uses the A1c to diagnose DM. Her office (she's part of a group) doesn't do OGTTs. So, as far as she's concerned, I'm not diabetic and I test too much. My meter and I disagree with her :-)

But, as I said, after a glass of wine or two, it was easy to convince myself that hey, after all, meters can be 20% off and still be considered accurate, so was that really a 248 or a 220 or a 200? But I definitely need to stop thinking that way.

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Id be careful with that for sure, very fine line. That is a pretty big spike not to be diabetic. Your doc seems to be out to lunch. Keep on testing and fight the urge. Alcohol gives me the munchies too. I had a few low carb beers friday night and found myself with a bag of cheetohs from my kids halloween bag. Only 9g of carbs. But after 2 more beers another bag lol. All was ok though didnt get above 4.8 (85ish Im not breaking out the calculator lol). Fasting was still good too at 4.1, so nothing snuck up on me.

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The doc is pretty much screwy with that way of thinking. But the bonus is if you go LCHF and stick to it, you may not get the "official" diagnosis.

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I am not aiming for ketosis, but for about 100g carbs per day and staying below 140 (7.8). I risk going above that only occasionally, on my birthday and holiday meals (Mom's pie). I do find though that since I eat lower carb overall, my system has recovered to the point where even a dessert might not take me over 7.8 if the rest of the meal is low-carb. I don't think I'd ever eat something like pasta and bread and dessert, because I know I'd feel like crap the next day for sure. My muscles get achy and I get so tired.

If I need a treat more often than that I limit it to once a week. I can't totally cut out treats because the way my brain is wired, if I did that I'd find myself at the bottom of a gallon of ice cream within a month. The people who find it easier to just omit all carby foods know that they can do that. Listen to yourself and see what feels right.

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Cheating...Never, but this weekend, Our birthdays I plan to have some fried fish and clam strips in maine on our trip. I am trusting it won't rise too much because it is a very light coating, but my 90 day average is now 94. I don;t want to risk a change that will raise it. Scott

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PC76: Yes, exactly. My fasting is still under the line for diabetes (107 - "Mean Bld Glucose, calc'd") as is my A1c (5.8, 5.9 before that) as of June. However, I've had numbers as high as 248 (September) and 222 (October) since then, both a result of not sticking to my low-carb diet.

My doctor has told me that she uses the A1c to diagnose DM. Her office (she's part of a group) doesn't do OGTTs. So, as far as she's concerned, I'm not diabetic and I test too much. My meter and I disagree with her :-)

But, as I said, after a glass of wine or two, it was easy to convince myself that hey, after all, meters can be 20% off and still be considered accurate, so was that really a 248 or a 220 or a 200? But I definitely need to stop thinking that way.
I think i'd find a new doctor if she's not willing to do the tests that other docs use. I'm very fortunate, but my Greek Endo studied in the USA, and UK, and doesn't rule out any test opp.

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