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Old 05-13-2013, 16:58   #1
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My son is going to college to eventually become a physician's assistant. Recently he had a nutrition class (basic brainwashing 101). I told him that I was doing the LCHF diet, and he pretty much flipped out. Long story short, I told him that that's the way our ancestors ate, and that, as a diabetic, I just cannot do carbs. He said that if our ancestors had it right, why did they die so young? He said he read somewhere that the average life expectancy back then was in the 30s. He also said that they ate fruit. (I can only eat a few strawberries. Any other fruit spikes me.)

Anyway, playing devil's advocate here, I'm wondering what all of you LCHF'ers think about his logic? Why DID our ancestors die so young if the LCHF diet is what we are meant to do? (BTW, I AM doing LCHF, and it's working for me. I don't intend on quitting it.) Just curious.

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Depends on what our ancestors died of. Typically it was disease and not the kind you get from eating a low carb high fat diet.

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TTM - that's pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking too. Also, things like infections from wounds without the aid of antibiotics. I'd like to be able to converse intelligently with my son about this, so I'm also curious to see what others might have to say. My son is worried about me now (thinking I'm eating a dangerous diet), and I want to help put him at ease.

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Please understand that there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. We Scot-Irish up until recent married and had about a dozen children, half of which died of childhood diseases before they were old enough to marry (14 ). So if you use statistics, half lived to about 6 years old and half lived to about 60 years, so the "statistical" average longevity would be about 33 years. That is where the deception comes from when using statistics. Also many women died of childbirth. And the British enjoyed starving us to death when possible.

"For Ireland to be commercially successful, half of the population must disappear. How this happens is unimportant" Sound like the New World Order? This was said over 150 years ago.
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ColaJim - I'm with you on the statistics part. Just need to get my son to understand.

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Fruits have been genetically modified -- the OLD WAY, hybridization -- to be much larger and to contain far, far more fructose (or glucose) by humans, in recent millenia.

And yes infectious diseases carried off many more of our ancestors! Have him read some good archeology ... Dr. Diamond is not a diabetic OR a weightlifter ... "merely" an archeologist who has seen first-hand the effects of the human-bred crops on other humans ...

The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race

Dr. Diamond IS also a physiologist, by education ... I have hero worshiped him as an archeologist, was pleased to see he supports paleo and LC and their ilk!

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Thanks for the info, foxl! I'll definitely have my son read that.

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My son is going to college to eventually become a physician's assistant. Recently he had a nutrition class (basic brainwashing 101). I told him that I was doing the LCHF diet, and he pretty much flipped out. Long story short, I told him that that's the way our ancestors ate, and that, as a diabetic, I just cannot do carbs. He said that if our ancestors had it right, why did they die so young? He said he read somewhere that the average life expectancy back then was in the 30s. He also said that they ate fruit. (I can only eat a few strawberries. Any other fruit spikes me.)

Anyway, playing devil's advocate here, I'm wondering what all of you LCHF'ers think about his logic? Why DID our ancestors die so young if the LCHF diet is what we are meant to do? (BTW, I AM doing LCHF, and it's working for me. I don't intend on quitting it.) Just curious.
Whether it's how 'our' ancestors ate or not is irrelevant in the end. Genetic adaptations to diet can happen fairly fast. LCHF is effective for many people, that's what matters. Your son is getting hung up on method over results.

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Actually, my doctor & I were just talking about this a few weeks ago. My son had to come with me to an appt. because he didn't have school that day. We started talking about my son's generation (he's 7). The doctor said that he's been reading recently in various medical periodicals how the life expectancy for my son's generation is upwards of 120-130. Of course, this is all projected and based on continual advances of medicine.

My doctor was telling me that people from generations ago died so young because in many cases, they simply didn't have the basic medicine or even hygienic practices that we have today. Diseases ran rampant that no one knew how to cure, women died from childbirth complications, and even the diseases that are common to treat now with medicine had to go untreated, due to a lack of knowledge.

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I don't think eating a SAD diet would have been able to stop a charging Mammoth.

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