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Old 08-17-2013, 03:36   #1
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I made keto Meatza pizza for dinner, but by the time it was ready, I was slightly nauseated at the thought of eating. I don't have a virus, but lately, I'm just not hungry.

Any thoughts? If it keeps up past the weekend, I'm making an appointment with my doctor.

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What meds are you on? Metformin can cause nausea or other issues with your stomach for some people, and is also an appetite suppressant. How many carbs have you been eating? I started getting very nauseous when I'd eat too many carbs. Even a slice of bread or a small serving of rice would do it at the end before I finally gave them up completely. Then there's something called the "Atkins flu" where people get sick after starting a low carb diet as their body adapts. I got that and thought I was very sick with the flu, but it passed very quickly without any other signs of the real flu.

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I'm on meteor in, but I've been on it over a year. Until yesterday I wasn't real,y eating low carb. I don't feel too bad other than slightly uneasy when I think about eating. Not really nauseated. And the pizza smelled so good!

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I'm on meteor in, but I've been on it over a year. Until yesterday I wasn't real,y eating low carb. I don't feel too bad other than slightly uneasy when I think about eating. Not really nauseated. And the pizza smelled so good!
Lol autocorrect! Metformin.

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I was on metformin, in one form or another, for over 8 years, but never felt anything. Then last April, my doc made some changes. He started me on insulin and changed the medication to a different metformin combo drug. I though it was one of those changes that he made that caused my nausea, but just the fact that he was putting me on insulin made me suddenly get very serious and I started eating lower carbs immediately. Now I'm not so sure it was ever the medication, but just my body reacting positively to the low carbs, and attempting to reject the higher carb poison I'd been feeding it for many decades. I immediately became quite disinterested in eating and have never recovered my appetite since then, for which I'm quite grateful. The few times when I tried to overeat, it made me extremely ill.

I still love the smell of bread. I walk past a bakery every day that has a very powerful aroma coming from it, and love that smell. But that's as close as I ever get to eating it. There's actually quite a few foods that I think smell good, but don't like to eat, some which I never acquired a taste for other than their aroma.

Anyways, these days just the thought of high carbs, or seeing someone else consuming a meal that I used to is enough to make my stomach a bit uneasy. So I certainly wouldn't worry about it. It's probably just the low carbs having a very positive effect on you, and will work in your favor to keep you from reverting back to high carbs.

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My guess is that the sudden onset is a bit of 'atkins flu' . . . physical response to serious low-carbing. Maybe with a touch of metformin added in, because met does work better in conjunction with low-carb meals - it can't do all the work of lowering blood sugar by itself.

Met always curbed my appetite, and even if I could tie into a meal with gusto, I couldn't (and still usually can't) eat more than about half. Cooking at home I'll fix a steak or anything that's individual servings, and leave half of mine on the plate. Sometimes OWC cleans up my leftovers; sometimes I go back after a coupla/three hours & eat the rest. This is a complete turnaround from my before-diabetes high-carb habits, when I could always pack in more food even if I could barely breathe afterward.

See if you can wait it out for a week & see what happens. If it's just as Aaron & I suspect, there's surely nothing wrong with it - you'll just get used to having less appetite, so you'll eat less & your blood sugar will be the better for it. We don't want you to dry up & blow away, but if there's some weight loss from this, LCHF has a good record of stabilizing our weight at the best level, regardless of what other weight/BMI charts have to say about it.




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met does work better in conjunction with low-carb meals
That's interesting to know. I figured before that it was just the great meds or insulin doing their job, when my BG numbers started to see an immediate improvement. But probably just the met part of my meds, together with my low-carb diet that was doing it.

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Met always curbed my appetite, and even if I could tie into a meal with gusto, I couldn't (and still usually can't) eat more than about half.
Sounds like me. I used to be the biggest eater of any group I was with, but would be the first to finish, even though I ate a lot more. Now I eat the least, but often finish last, and really don't feel like eating the last of it most of the time. Most definitely I don't have any of that gusto I used to in devouring my meal. But the met most definitely didn't have that effect during the first 8 years when I was consuming lots of grain/high carbs, as per my nutritionist's instructions. I had my full appetite back in those days, and would only occasionally have an upset stomach after taking my met, but promptly ignored it and just dug into my food.

Now that I'm thinking about this though, there was one other change which I hadn't calculated on having any effect until right now. For the first 8 years, I was instructed to take my met 30 minutes prior to eating, which I followed strictly, or if anything perhaps a bit more than 30 minutes sometimes. In fact it was one of my biggest issues with my meds, because sometimes I'd be in a situation where I was called to immediately join some people for dinner, but hadn't taken my met in advance. In those cases I'd just skip it, and it was quite common for me to skip it at least once a week due to that. Well, in April when everything changed, I was told to take the met right at the start of my meal. This made it SO much easier for me, because I didn't have to calculate when my meal time was, and worry if it was going to be much sooner, or much later than the specified 30 minutes. My prescription still stated to take it 30 minutes prior, but the pharmacy said there was no need to do that.

Now perhaps where this made a significant difference for me is that when I was taking met 30 minutes prior to eating, any nausea I'd get usually started almost immediately after taking the pill. I don't like to swallow pills - I've always found it a bit difficult, so prefer to just chew it and endure the bitter taste. So I'm guessing it starts to take effect very quickly compared to if it needs a bit of time to start dissolving in your stomach. So that nausea would be there after taking the pill, but I knew that because I just took it, I should eat anyways, even if I didn't really feel like it. And once I took a bite of food, I suddenly would feel fine. Now that I take it at the start of my meal (and still chew it), maybe that immediate effect is still quite strong while I'm eating and so has such a vastly different effect than before. Makes sense to me.

Well regardless of the met, I think my brain works differently now than before and I just don't get hungry like I used to or have the same appetite. On days where I've accidentally forgotten to take my met, my appetite doesn't seem to be affected at all.

Anyways, I've seen lots of differences in how people report the difference in reaction to met. And certainly the ER version will be quite different. But even with the regular version, I just chalked it up to everyone's body being different in how it reacts. I'm sure that's some of it, but perhaps the timing of it with the meal also plays some important role. Some "food" for thought.

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Just for the record, if anyone is using the ER version, please don't chew it. The pills are coated for the purpose of slow release, and chewing it or cutting it in any way nullifies the extended release properties.




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Love Shanny's humour bits.

22 months into D with Glucophage/metformin and I still have very little appetite. Anything 'heavy' often makes me nauseas. Small portions work for me. I take 2 tabs daily. Occasionally I feela little hunger when I slip up and forget to take it.

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I made keto Meatza pizza for dinner, but by the time it was ready, I was slightly nauseated at the thought of eating. I don't have a virus, but lately, I'm just not hungry.

Any thoughts? If it keeps up past the weekend, I'm making an appointment with my doctor.
Unless your wasting away and losing too much weight, why worry about it? I have two rules when it comes to eating:

1) Don't eat anything unless/until you are truly hungry.
2) When you eat, don't fill yourself all the way up.

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